Cop Killer Guns and Fort Hood

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The Five-SeveN pistol was released to the U.S. civilian market in 2004. Shortly thereafter, the Brady Campaign and a trio of anti-gun law enforcement organizations made the claim that the gun was a “cop killer.” This claim was based upon a misrepresentation of marketing materials discussing the pistol’s capabilities using SS190 armor-piercing ammunition and non-certified “tests” that were contradicted by more stringent and controlled testing done by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF).

Link to ATF test results: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearmstech/fabriquen.htm

Slower, heavier bullets such as those found in the .40 S&W and .45 ACP hollow point cartridges favored by American law enforcement dump most if not all of their energy in the human body. The difference between a wound from a 5.7 bullet and a .45 ACP is not dissimilar to the difference between the wound from an ice pick and the wound from a sledgehammer. The ice pick will penetrate far deeper, but the sledgehammer will cause far more traumatic injuries.

The simple fact of the matter is that there is good reason to believe that at least some of those wounded in Thursday’s shooting are alive today because of the 5.7 cartridge’s dubious capabilities.

Full article – HERE

Hat Tip: SayUncle Blog

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Alejandro November 10, 2009 at 11:09 pm

Heh… I was able to buy and register this gun in México last year, but after all the craze about the “Kop Killing!” stuff in the media all the permits for it where denied, along with the .357 “sigh”.

I ended up selling it to a .mil friend… too much of a hassle to have.

Just a note on the blog you quoted, it states that it is beign issued to Méxican forces, well… NO.
Members of the armed forces are entitled with the right to purchase their own sidearm without the restriction that applies to civilians and law enforcement agencies.

And as a matter of fact even the ammunition sold to .mils is BALL ammo, not even AP ammo, so I don’t know why the blog states it is issued to cops (who are issued .38 wheelguns) with AP ammo while it has no evidence of it what so ever.

Anyway, I now have a G25 (in .380) on my nightstand, I’ll see if I can export your stock adapter, according to Glock it is identical to the G19 so I’d guess it would fit.

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Admin (Mike) November 10, 2009 at 11:17 pm

Hi Alejandro,
Interesting what you said about Mexican law enforcement being under the same restrictions as civilians.

The Glock 25 is VERY rare here… Actually I don’t recall ever seeing one. Everyone has a G19 though!

You mentioned exporting my stock adapter for use on your G25.. Unfortunately it won’t fit because it is only made for the full size frames listed on the site.

Take care,
-Mike

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Alejandro November 10, 2009 at 11:41 pm

Ah.. I checked ENDO TAC again… sigh… I thought the 19 was mentioned there blaaagh!

Heh, you know, that would have been sweet.

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Hey look at my XD!
Nah look at my SIG226
what about my USP TAC eh?

Hm.. yeah, I (and I can’t emphasis “I” enough), have a Glock25 with a stock! try to +1 that up foul peasants!
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Hehe, oh and yeah, foot cops are as limited as we are, officers and higher can have a Semi-automatic, 9mm for duty only, they must leave it there sitting in the armory when off duty.

My friend, who is a Captain can and often do, purchase some bizarre choices, to add to his collection.
I had to purchase the Taurus Tracker in .17 just so that he knew I could keep up with the bizarre.

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Admin (Mike) November 10, 2009 at 11:46 pm

<< Hm.. yeah, I (and I can’t emphasis “I” enough), have a Glock25 with a stock! try to +1 that up foul peasants! LOL That's crazy that police officers there can't take their guns home. I didn't know that! That .17 HMR taurus tracker must be fun! I like that caliber for target shooting. Pretty cheap ammo still compared to centerfire.

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Alejandro November 11, 2009 at 12:30 pm

It varies from state to state, from city to city.

In the capital, Distrito Federal (of “man on fire” fame hehe) and other crime hotspots like Tijuana is not rare for cops to take guns off-duty, where beign a blue can cost your life (but somehow civilians are restricted because they don’t need it anyways? UH THE F, like if we weren’t in danger as well)

In some places like Guerrero and Chiapas where there where some civil insurrections years ago cops are as restricted as us, fear of things like that where what pushed the .gov to pass the ban on the 68ish and approve it on the 71.

In my state, Tamaulipas, they are restricted after some governor had it with the expenses of missing sidearms (cops getting drunk and selling of their guns to pay the tab) and forbid it, but that was DECADES ago, before the whole narco or other thingamabob crawling around here nowdays.

I hate to say it, but if a criminal wants a gun (Five seveNs, Deagles, 1911s) its easier for them to get across the river, and pay a coyote for it (If humans can get across the border how comes people don’t think guns can go south?), than getting a ranking cop, or soldier, buy one in the ONLY store in México, that is ran by .mils, with the added expense of DoS taxes, .mil profits, travel tickets to the capital for the .mil to pick up his gun and then the pay for the .mil to sell it to the crooks…

Anyway enough babbling about it, but generally speaking, only .mils have the right to purchase over .38 caliber guns, and use it when on duty, (they can’t take it for a walk when off-duty).
But everyone (including us and the .mil) can take it for a shot or two at the range if you happen to be a member of the club.

I’ll keep reading your blog, it’s kinda nice!

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Admin (Mike) November 11, 2009 at 03:51 pm

< cops getting drunk and selling of their guns to pay the tab Classic! Glad to hear you like the blog. Keep on commenting on articles as well, it keeps it interesting!

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