Preparing For Victory Day

Never before in history have active-duty American troops been invited to march in the Victory Day parade, according to the United States military. The occasion is the 65th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany in World War II, a date that carries an almost sacred meaning in Russia.

Ukrainian and Russian sailors wearing in World War II-era Soviet soldiers’ uniforms march during a parade rehearsal in the central Ukrainian city of Sevastopol, the main base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

Anyone know what make / model guns those are?

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Steven S. May 8, 2010 at 01:44 am

I hope that question is sarcasm.

If not that is a PPSh-41 (Pistolet-Pulemyot Shpagina – 1941), They sound amazing when fired full auto, and one of my favorite guns to use in Call of Duty: World at War, and one of my future purchases in semi only though.

And that Russian translates to Shpagin machine pistol, George Shpagin is the man who designed it.

Another example of how I love gun names, so simple and practical but have so much meaning behind them.

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Josh May 8, 2010 at 10:49 am

For those of us who don’t live life vicariously through a video game console, it was a legitimate question. Admittedly, the answer was easy to research, but off the top of my head I would have no idea. I don’t imagine these are a common sight outside of your XBox.

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SPC Fish May 8, 2010 at 11:47 am

they are a common sight at any machine gun shoot. or any NFA gun show.

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Austin January 17, 2011 at 10:26 pm

There is a company that makes a .22 semi auto version. I have not seen the drum magazines for them however. At my local gun shop, they sell for around $500 and call them PPSH22’s. Not sure who makes them or how easy they are to find. And if I were to purchase one, I’d make sure to get an ATF stamp so I could have it in full-auto.

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david January 18, 2011 at 01:45 pm

That’s not how the NFA works, Austin.

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Steven S. May 8, 2010 at 12:15 pm

LOL, I had known about the PPSh long before the video game, it was just a reference I made. I grew up watching a ton of WWII movies and still watch them when new ones come out, currently watching The Pacific, watching a lot of those pretty much taught me about all the guns that were used during the time. My ultimate goal is to collect as many WWII era guns as I can, only have 1 right now which is a Mosin.

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Admin (Mike) May 8, 2010 at 11:37 pm

The question wasn’t sarcasm. I am really bad with naming old guns. Every time I search for russian guns I always end up at some shady guns.ru site (or something with a similar name) which I don’t like. Thanks for the info.

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Seriously June 4, 2010 at 04:18 am

That’s not fair or accurate, Mike.

The guy who owns world.guns.ru, Maxim Popenker, posts on Thehighroad.org sometimes, and is a great dude.
He’s one of the few supporters of Civil rights, and RKBA in Russia.

He personally helped me with all of the questions I had concerning legal self defense tools when I traveled to Moscow.

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Admin (Mike) June 12, 2010 at 03:21 pm

I’m sure whoever owns the site is a good guy. I just don’t like the the layout of the site and the ads he has on there. It looks like a typical example of an oldschool malware site.

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Charlie January 3, 2011 at 06:42 pm

Nah, world.guns.ru is legit, and was (if not, still) the go to online repository for military small arms past, present and future. Even wikipedia references his work, I can’t think of anyone who has had more extensive hands on experience with the majority of the guns he writes about.

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Mike May 8, 2010 at 02:04 am

Yeah, PPSh 41. The later models to come after it didn’t do the whole drum magazine thing, and I never understood why. A 71 round magazine full of 7.62 x 25 would just be so much fun.

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Charlie January 3, 2011 at 06:59 pm

Several reasons in fact.

Drum mags were too complex and time consuming to manufacture compared to stick or banana magazine.

Also, drum magazines are not as space efficient for on person carry, so the red army would issue troops one drum magazine to be attached to their PPSh 41 at all time, then the rest were stick mags.

The latter PPS 43 was initially intended for tank crews, so it was designed with a metal folding stock and was not intended to accept drum magazines since it would be too unwieldy inside a tank. It’s all stamped metal design lent itself to simpler manufacturing process (a trend clear across the board with SMGs of other nations; i.e. thompson to grease gun, lanchester to sten, mp34 to mp40), so the Soviets were able to produce them at a faster rate and started issuing them to infantry as well.

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Ken May 8, 2010 at 10:16 am

Since they have an excess of “nearly new” burp guns,Ill take one thanks!

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Mount May 9, 2010 at 12:18 am

I had a PPSH-41 for a little while. I had to send it back the the manufacturer twice, unfortunately she never got it working right, and I got a refund. It was really freaking fun though! I had three drum mags and 4 stick mags, and the ammo is cheap cheap cheap. I still have 1 of the drum mags, thinking about adapting it to my CZ-52.

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ANTI May 9, 2010 at 01:30 am

Should have listened to Patton and went and destroyed the commies. The fact that we didn’t made the second world war completely pointless. No one cared about Poland, and the only reason we got involved is because FDR was pissing Hitler off in the Atlantic.

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david January 18, 2011 at 01:47 pm

Facepalm.jpg

Might wanna scale back a little on the HURR DURR ‘MURIKA STRONG! buddy

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Bryan S. May 9, 2010 at 07:44 am

You can buy a semi-auto version here: http://www.militarygunsupply.com/shop2/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=133

and most likley a few other places as well.

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Aleksandr Mravinsky May 9, 2010 at 11:52 pm

I love papa-shas. I think that the same company that made the semi-automatic PKM awhile back also makes semi-automatic PPSh’s (at least, they have a video of a testfire on their youtube). Could be mistaken. Might be a different company.

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Jayson May 31, 2012 at 05:00 am

my favorite subgun ever, ppsh-41. I am a 7.62×25 tok junky. Soon to be 9×25 Dillon junkie. Wildcat me!

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