$100k Titanium AR .308 Battle Rifle

Well maybe not a battle rifle.. more like an “Impress People with all your disposable income” rifle:

You can check out more pics and info over at NEMO Arms.  Damn I love the look of Titanium.

The barrel and a few other components are still stainless steel.  Titanium is almost twice as heavy as Aluminum and way more difficult to machine. Like he said in the video, it’s to showcase their machining capabilities (and to no doubt get a buzz going around the internet).

NEMO arms will be at the NRA annual meeting today, so if you’re going you can check it out.

Thoughts?

Hat tip: Jerry

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agentorange197 April 12, 2012 at 12:17 am

That will go great with my Gold AK!

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El Duderino April 12, 2012 at 12:45 am

$100k? Seriously, these guys can just suck it. A rifle that reads your mind and instantly kills people out to 2000m wouldn’t be 100 grand.

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Timmeehh April 12, 2012 at 12:51 am

I guess you’ve never heard of Holland&Holland shotguns.

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Ben April 12, 2012 at 12:53 am

D’fa? For $100K it had better come with 100,000 rounds of ammo, a couple of spare barrels and bolt groups, and your own personal SI swimsuit model to clean the damn thing. They could have just as easily showcased their machining by building a standard AR and putting it through some serious durability and QC testing.

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Luc April 12, 2012 at 12:57 am

Machining Ti is costly but it’s not $98k expensive for christ’s sake.

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M-cameorn April 12, 2012 at 05:52 am

but have you factored in the cost of materials……..since right now, Titanium costs roughly 20x more than aluminum does……

then you need to find machines and tools that can actually handle cutting the Ti…

….and you have to find people who actually have experience working with Ti to cut the parts……

then you need take into account that working with Ti takes longer than working with Al…….and with the going rate of shop time what it is….thats not going to be cheap.

adds up quick.

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El Duderino April 12, 2012 at 10:28 am

If they secured a government contract they might be able to do the $100k…

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The J April 12, 2012 at 01:40 pm

I have a lot of experience with titanium. It does cost a more as a raw material, but the tooling to cut titanium is not extreme in any respect. Titanium can be machined using the same WC bits that are used on any hardened steel parts, like gun barrels. The issue with cutting titanium is that hot titanium has a tendency to dissolve other metal parts that it comes in contact with. That is why it takes longer to machine, you can’t let the parts heat up.

But onto the real issue here. The genus of Eugene Stoner what designing a rifle in which the receiver handled no ballistic load. That’s why the upper is made of aluminum. Going to titanium is stupid. It has nearly twice the density (4.6 g/cm3 vs 2.7 g/cm3 for AL) so a Ti receiver is heavier. The receiver will be stronger, but the extra strength is un necessary. It’s a little more corrosion resistant, which would only matter in a war on Venus where it rains HCl. Anodized aluminum will handle any environment that a human could survive in.

In the end, this is a gimmic. It’s a $10,000 “more money than brains” gun that they marked up to the price of a Porche because… maybe they can, I guess. But let’s be honest. Ti guns are not new, I have a few S&W Airlights. Taurus has a Ti frame and cylinder gun. The S&W 360PD is spendy but not 50 times the price of a model 60. Knock a zero off the end of the price tag and maybe they will sell a few, but at this price, the floor model is gonna be the only model.

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NikonMikon April 13, 2012 at 04:19 am

Not to mention the expansion characteristics of Ti are different than Al, I would assume… Could this lead to problems with the gas block sealing on the stainless barrel? bi-metal situations always lead to things like sheared gaskets under rapid heat-up.

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El Duderino April 13, 2012 at 11:48 am

So if it carries no load, let’s make one out of 14k gold! That would sell for $100k for sure.

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dave w April 12, 2012 at 01:06 am

gotta getz wun a deez fo ma niggahs

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dave w April 12, 2012 at 01:13 am

My bad, been reading too much thug life.
What i meant to say was:
Why, how jolly interesting, i shall have to add this to the list of overpriced things i wish i could afford but probably wouldn’t buy even if i could.

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AKMSF April 12, 2012 at 01:30 am

That’s actually pretty neat, and at least they’re honest about the fact that it’s wildly impractical and just a demo piece for them to pimp around.

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Will April 12, 2012 at 03:07 am

A couple of other companies I can think of would go “Neva been dun befo'” and claim you weren’t a true gun enthusiast unless you owned at least two :p

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spencer April 12, 2012 at 03:36 am

Congratulations you made an even heavier .308 than an AR-10. You should have replaced a steel receiver (Think M-14) with Ti.

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Adam April 12, 2012 at 07:27 am

NEMO Arms just underwent restructuring, and I would agree with your comment about them creating buzz. You might better know them from a company they recently purchased, Montana based SI Defense. Look forward to their more moderately priced offerings…

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Jon April 12, 2012 at 08:14 am

All that Ti, but steel firing pin?

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Dontshootmebro April 12, 2012 at 08:55 am

You cant polish a turd, Beavis.

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Church April 12, 2012 at 04:28 pm

I’m not gonna bash this, or the guy. It’s absolutely a statement piece. I’m glad he admits it to be impractical… Pretty cool when you’re all said and done.

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032125 April 12, 2012 at 05:48 pm

Cheaper than an H&K 416, and at least the customer service at Nemo isn’t required to spit in your mouth before they’ll help you.

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Josh April 12, 2012 at 06:03 pm

When the answer to the question, “Can we do it?,” is yes, it sometimes needs to be followed by, “But, does it make any sense to?”

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Jeff April 12, 2012 at 07:49 pm

I vaguely remember the military having problems with a titanium m240, leads me to believe something about it is unsuitable for firearms

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ThatGuy April 12, 2012 at 08:40 pm

Nice piece. He says in the video it’s not meant to sell any of them, it’s just to show off what they can do. I’m sure they could produce these for under 5K if they thought there was actually a market for them.

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DaveP. April 12, 2012 at 11:00 pm

$100K must include the cost of at least some of the machines themselves….

Cool toy, though.

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cc19 April 13, 2012 at 11:28 am

$100k can get a few good transferrable machine guns where legal. Though I’m sure there’d be some drug cartel bosses who wouldn’t mind the bling…

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Clint April 15, 2012 at 01:53 am

All – thanks for all the comments on the NEMO Ti ONE. It’s a conversational piece and it’s garnered a lot of attention for sure. Keep in mind, our team at NEMO are “gun guys and gals” who love designing and building weapons. Moreover, most of us come from extensive backgrounds of working professionals.

Ti ONE started as a conversation over some beers “What if?” and “how would people react?” it was fun to do (and challenging) and never meant for sale. But with so many people asking, we had to put a price on it. $100k is crazy…but the raw material along cost nearly $30k AND it is Serial No 1 after all.

At the end of the day we have had a lot of fun and more importantly gotten a lot of hate and attention from lefty liberal newspapers over this weapon – further pissing off people who want to take your guns away. And at the end of the day…it’s worth the money to us just based on that.

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NikonMikon April 15, 2012 at 05:00 am

More power to ya man.

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Dan February 17, 2013 at 06:58 pm

30K for the raw material my a$$! $3000.00….maybe! Great looking gun and no doubt cool, but be honest.

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Gary May 14, 2012 at 09:41 am

I would actually be more interested in seeing the machine tooling that made the rifle. That would be more impressive.

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NikonMikon May 14, 2012 at 10:12 am

Wouldn’t it be similar to any standard tooling used in the creation of a billet AR-15 except for the bits?

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Dan February 17, 2013 at 07:01 pm

Oh, and a “FULL” titanium ar? why would the barrel not be>????

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Konstantin G. Mantzouranis June 18, 2013 at 08:16 pm

I’ll buy it for $30,000… Seriously… Bank Check sent via Fedex!

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