James Yeager Takes Credit For The Rules of Gunfighting

I’m not saying he DIDN’T make them up… but did he?

You can check out the Rules Of Gunfighting I posted about a couple years ago.  I’ve never seen it attributed to him, but if he actually did make most of the list up he gains some points with me, because the list is pretty badass.

“MOVE – Motionless Operators Ventilate Easily”   haha good one

At 7:28 he starts to justify downrange photography again, and about how “the reality is no gunfight environment is perfectly safe” *eye roll*, then he goes on to compare that to the collateral damage from that recent NYC shooting where innocent bystanders got hurt by stray bullets.  Whatever James… It looks like you’re never going to back down on this point.  I hope you’re paying your photographers well.

Thoughts?

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matt August 30, 2012 at 04:47 am

Why do you keep on posting these “James Yeager Approved” gay porn pics?

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Frank August 30, 2012 at 09:13 am

It should say “Buck Yeager”!

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ENDO-Mike August 30, 2012 at 04:02 pm

Because it is the funniest shit ever.

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Hard_Harry August 30, 2012 at 07:38 pm

I gotta say I really like the avatars, especially the FPS Russia, and pawnshop guys. Keep up the good work man!

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Hard_Harry August 30, 2012 at 07:36 pm

It is pretty fuckin’ funny though!

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DocN August 30, 2012 at 05:22 am

I have no idea who this Yeager fellow is, but while he may indeed have contributed to that list, but he absolutely, unequivocally, did not originate it. Many of them were originally printed in “Guns & Ammo” under Jeff Cooper’s “Cooper’s Corner” columns, starting in the eighties. Which were basically lists of short pithy phrases or single sentences very much like that list.

Item number one on that list is definitely a Cooperism, and six, ten, seventeen and twenty-three are almost certainly his as well.

Other lines on that list are things that Massad Ayoob has been teaching in his schools and writing about in his articles for over thirty years. Such as 4, 5, 7, 8, 13 and 19.

I suspect that what Mr. Yeager really means is that he compiled a list of these various quotes he read on the internet, and printed it up under his own letterhead.

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Andy from CT August 30, 2012 at 10:21 am

This.

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Linoge August 30, 2012 at 05:32 am

What happened in NYC is exactly why his putting his photographers downrange during live fire exercises is irresponsible, unsafe, and flat-out idiotic.

On the flip side, the photographers are doing it of their own choice, so that goes double for them.

As for his claim… yeah, I am so inclined to believe him… Oh, wait…

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Tam August 30, 2012 at 11:59 am

What happened in NYC is exactly why his putting his photographers downrange during live fire exercises is irresponsible, unsafe, and flat-out idiotic.

QFMFT.

I’m actually surprised that even Yeager can’t see the glaring irony of that statement.

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Jeep August 30, 2012 at 06:43 am

I like this one so much : “11. Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose”

Reminds me of this one :
“There is only one tactic, 10 against 1, and from behind, all the rest is jibberjabber”.

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M September 2, 2012 at 08:48 pm

got a “rule 34” to back that up?

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Philip August 30, 2012 at 06:56 am

Whats the 1st rule of fight club?

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That Guy August 30, 2012 at 07:27 am

“MOVE – Motionless Operators Ventilate Easily”

Wait- Isn’t he the guy that came to prominence by abandoning his buddies in a firefight while a contractor in Iraq?

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TheRealDave August 30, 2012 at 11:59 am

MOVE- Motionless Operators Ventilate Easily…

First, Operators answer telephones.

Second, movement is only one tactical option, the other one is use cover (like lying in a ditch).

Third, smarmy cutesy little “gun fight rules” are for fags.

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dave w August 30, 2012 at 09:30 pm

My mom was an operator before she got married, just saying

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2Wheels August 30, 2012 at 08:30 am

Yeager didn’t come up with sh-t. Seriously, he may have compiled some list as DocN suggested, but he didn’t come up with anything independently. I’ve heard variations on most of those from many other people, including instructors that were shooting before Yeager was born.

I’m sure he thinks he’s the greatest firearms instructor ever, in reality he’s known for being an @$$hole but that’s about it.

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Gviken August 30, 2012 at 08:58 am

Is anyone else disturbed he has a system for calculating dick size by someone’s carry gun? I am sure this is a system that has been perfected at his “classes”.

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Glocker23 August 30, 2012 at 09:09 am

I’ve gotta agree with you there. I’m sure the countless L.E. and government personnel, not to mention all the legally armed citizens, that carry said round are shocked to learn they have small dicks…and Mr. Yeager is concerning himself with said dick size.

I myself am a little taken back that he has concerned himself with the size of my Glock.

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TheRealDave August 30, 2012 at 09:35 am

I can’t figure out how guys like him rise to the top. I have never been to a tactical school but know my way around the battlefield… and I know there are hundreds, thousands of soldiers out there with more experience than me. So, other than false promotion and a big ego, does a guy like him become the “expert” on “gunfights”?

Do people actually take clowns like him seriously?

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Andy from CT August 30, 2012 at 10:19 am

I most certainly don’t. He apparently will never back down from photographer-gate. He is right and everyone else is wrong. And if you call him out to his face he will break your back. I wish I was making that up. But he threatened his detractors on a youtube vid and did just that. He said if you say it to his face that he will break your back.

This guy is a narcissistic tool who happens to shoot well. But even then I wouldn’t trust him in a firefight.

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TheRealDave August 30, 2012 at 10:28 am

Here is the deal, he seems to have “made” is reputation during an ambush. Regardless of how he performed, lets be frank. Force protection, i.e. self-defense is a 10 level task that even cooks are supposed to be able to perform. What is so badass about getting ambushed? I had the pleasure (and pain) of working with Dyncorp folks in Afghanistan, all were SWAT/entry type guys from civilian police agencies. Some (usually the ex-military) were some real good folks. But most were lost in that environment. It was an interesting thing to observe.

Let me see Mr. I’ll Break Your Back go and plan, lead, and participate in raids. Let me see him go and FIND the enemy and ambush him. Let me see him do what a private in the Infantry does day in and day out. And if he sees me in public he is welcome to try and break my neck.

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DoubleTap August 30, 2012 at 10:39 am

Who carries a 40cal? Guys who compromise and who compromises? Guys with little d!(i<s. Dear baby Jesus I'm so sorry for laughing at that but…….. that's funny I don't care who you are.

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BBJones August 30, 2012 at 11:07 am

+1 Never thought I would quote Yeager, but I cam going to use this.

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PJ August 30, 2012 at 03:14 pm

I thought Cory and Erika came up with the gun fighting rules as a lesson plan for their new shooting school.

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Jwhite August 30, 2012 at 05:06 pm

Step 1) Beat the crap out of your attacker with a loaded gun, if your GLOCK, has to be a glock, if your Glock doesnt shoot the bad guy while you’re beating him with it, point muzzle towards attacker and pull trigger, if miss, rinse repeat.

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Church August 30, 2012 at 04:09 pm

I don’t really like him and I’ve never seen one of his videos that wasn’t posted on here… So my opinion is strictly on the videos Mike posts.

I think he could have potential if he didn’t fucking talk so much. Yeah there’s all this shit talk about him but he has combat experience and his videos are about firearms which obviously we all like because we’re on ENDO. But damn, I’m 2:34 into this video and I don’t want to watch anything that simply involves someone talking…

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Jwhite August 30, 2012 at 05:05 pm

@1:38, he thinks about big and small dicks… LOL J/k

Why do you guys give this dude so much shit? Just trolling him, or what?

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Vhyrus August 30, 2012 at 05:16 pm

Within two minutes of pushing play (which means he was only talking for about 90 seconds) he managed to make himself look like an ignorant retarded fanboy douchebag. I think that could be a new world record. I would LOVE for this guy to tell my Marine sniper buddy that he has a little dick because he carries .357 sig.

“A .40 is a compromise. Who compromises? Guys with small dicks.” Well since it came from the mouth of the shriveled dick Dahli Lama himself it MUST be true! Here, let me translate Buckspeak into English for everyone else:

“These guys carry a bigger gun than I do… I’ll have to insult their penis size to soothe my bruised ego.”

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Robert August 30, 2012 at 05:22 pm

Those that can, do. Those that can’t complain/criticize and be sarcastic about those that do. Not exactly sure this type of “Snarkiness” of a guy who is at the very least helping people at least familiarize themselves with firearms. He’s at the very least brining some professionalism to the shooting sports. While I do understand the dangers of setting a photog down range, that danger is assumed by the photog, if he elects to perform such dumbassery and catches a round it’s on him. If he doesn’t and gets some good shots he’s a good photog.. Leave it be or not.

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Bull August 30, 2012 at 05:43 pm
Taylor TX August 30, 2012 at 06:41 pm

AS a photographer sometimes you do stupid shit to get paid, especially if it means youre getting some repeat business in this shit economy. HOWEVER, you as an a semi-intelligent human are the only one responsible for agreeing to what someone else is asking you to do. But the safety issue, these are people who could potentially be very inexperienced with firearms taking these classes. Whatever its your ass and you probably signed a waiver of some sort anyway.

But the .40 thing? Dicksize + Comprimise = a completed unrelated random statistic. Good thing these videos are here to provide us with entertainment.

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liquidflorian August 31, 2012 at 12:44 am

His argument is really disingenuous. His photographer buddy isn’t merely “down range” hes kneeling between the targets. Sure a photographer forward of the firing line might be at risk, but it’s a hell of a lot of difference between that and standing between the targets.

Buck’s has a lot of opinions, some of them good, but his bombastic needlessly grandiose attitude in the delivery make pretty much everything he says unpalatable. That shoulder roll is part of it. Some kind of connotative dissonance or something. He’s either the worlds biggest insecure douche or the most successful internet troll in the shooting community.

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Rob August 30, 2012 at 09:48 pm

What’s really wrong with a .40? Is it a compromise? Based on the video posted a few days ago where the doctor was discussing terminal ballistics, the argument that he made was essentially that, to kill someone with a pistol you have to destroy a critical structure. A 9mm will under penetrate in a larger target and a .45 has the potential to over penetrate and fail to tumble/fragment in a larger target. .40 seems like a middle of the road option that has the potential to penetrate to the ideal depth (depending on weight and powder of course). The key take away was that a pistol isn’t an effective weapon to stop a fight in an instant. Maybe Mr. Douche Canoe would like to carry a shotgun instead.

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paul kimble August 31, 2012 at 01:26 pm

1st off buck yeager is a douchebag.

2nd .40 Short & Weak only exists because some limp wristed FBI agents couldnt handle the recoil of Jeff Cooper’s god round 10mm.

g29 master race.

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Spidermonkey November 2, 2014 at 12:24 pm

I never understood why everyone complaints about recoil. If you can’t handle the recoil you probably shouldn’t be wearing the uniform. I loved it when instructors explain the value of ‘tactical’ reduced recoil buckshot.

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dumbassesallaroundme August 31, 2012 at 11:31 am

This guy is a fucking tard.

I carry a .40 and he mom carries my seed.

Seriously why does this asshat take up precious O2

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Pop N Fresh August 31, 2012 at 03:51 pm

that picture before you play the vid of yeager in cargo shorts and a tank top, would you call the look tactical homeless or flood-victim operator?

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Nate September 8, 2012 at 12:59 pm

…but he’s in the same shot with Chris Costa…

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NMBigfoot02 August 31, 2012 at 08:17 pm

King of Derp

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Rodger Young September 3, 2012 at 03:04 pm

http://www.thegunzone.com/gunfighting.html

I’ve heard Rule 1 since I first picked up a copy of G&A in elementary school.

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Rodger Young September 3, 2012 at 03:06 pm

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