Torture Testing KEL-TEC KSG Shotguns – Prison Rules

Skip to 1:48 to see them begin throwing the KSGs around:

Dropping the KSG in the shower etc…  Since it’s prison he had to watch how he bent over to pick it up:

They should have never gave you mofos KSGs… you don’t know how to appreciate shit!  /RickJames

The guys in the video are from US C-SOG (United States Corrections Special Operations Group), a group that trains corrections officers and they say that are pretty damn good at it according to their YouTube video description.

Not sure what’s with the background music, but it’s irritating.  So are the text cut scenes. :|

Looks like a fun little gun.  I wonder how well a Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500 would do in those same tests?

Thoughts?

Hat tip: Ross

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CHAOS October 5, 2012 at 12:09 am

Glad to see the great american hype machine is still in full operation. The KSG is still next to impossible to find. It’s a shame.

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matt October 5, 2012 at 04:21 pm

They’re readily available on gun broker, but still run $1200+ ($880 MSRP), compared to the RFB at about $1600 ($1880 MSRP). I blame its inclusion in call of duty for the demand.

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cc19 October 6, 2012 at 04:24 pm

Lol just like the ACR. I’m fine with the trend; It’ll hopefully make that crowd want to work and get decent jobs to be able to buy nice things.

I remember growing up that if you had an kitted SKS or a pistol grip 12GA, you were tacticool enough. Actually… that still sounds like today. Some things haven’t changed I guess.

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SqDb October 24, 2012 at 04:59 pm

My local gun store has had one for $750 for about 3 months now.

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Aftermath Gun Club October 5, 2012 at 01:09 am

Production is 1500-1700 a month (per their official Facebook page), they’ll catch up with demand eventually.

There is something about this video that is like watching an amateur skateboarding video.

The second video is now disabled for embedding. I hate that.

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TC October 5, 2012 at 09:24 am

I keep expecting (Senior team leader, STL, yes, you are required to call him this) Garcia to break into a river dance at any moment with that music. and come on, targets that close and no eye pro. I am far from being a “TIP OF THE SPEAR” operator, but again, corrections sert teams armed with KSG’s? A lot of corrections dept still carry revolvers

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Joseph October 5, 2012 at 09:48 am

What load are they shooting indoors?

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ENDO-Mike October 5, 2012 at 11:35 am

At 3:14 In the 2nd video he mentions “Nova star Less Lethal” lightfield rounds – http://litfld.com/wp/?page_id=446

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Skyler October 5, 2012 at 11:55 am

Did that guy seriously call their group a Tier 1 team? Tier 1 Prison hacks? I think the boys with beards out in Sandistan would prove slightly pissy at hearing that. 0/10 Garcia, you and your “Wurriers”

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Max October 5, 2012 at 12:24 pm

These guys may not be the tier 1 operators that the claim to be, but that guy running the shotgun has had some serious trigger time. Obviously not a newb when it comes to the pump action shotgun.

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ROB October 5, 2012 at 01:13 pm

complete tool. he is so amped up he fumbles around the ksg in every test. special operations prison guards huh? probably playing call of duty right now

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Max October 6, 2012 at 12:54 am

Ok, LE KSGs can be set up to slam fire, that’s how he’s shooting so quickly.

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mandingo October 5, 2012 at 01:27 pm

I love watching this guy run around at SHOT, total clown shoes.

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TC October 5, 2012 at 02:36 pm

Senior Team Leader Clown shoes, it is great to talk to any of his “team”, they never say his name without the preface, and it is always said in reverent tones.

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M October 5, 2012 at 06:11 pm

mossberg or remington would probably do just as well, the only maybe is when they set off a flashbang underneath it. even that didn’t look like it put too much force on the gun, the plastic only looks discolored, not deformed at all…

here’s a real test, guy dips the thing in a frozen lake and dumps a bucket of mud on a cheapo baikal shotty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt1QV3DFUrQ

in the end the mud gunks up the bolt return, but it still fires with a little coaxing.

The cool thing about the KSG is the length, along with the round count. but after watching this tool fumble the tube selector switch about every time he touched the damn thing, sure would want to practice with it until it became second nature if you’re going to bet your life on it.

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overkill556x45 October 5, 2012 at 06:54 pm

I clicked on video 2 and it would seem he had an ND at 6:52. Or maybe it’s just how they edited it. He flips the mag selector back to the first side, pumps and says “lets just check *inaudible*..” then boom. Did they edit in the sound of a gunshot, or edit out video of an ND?

If we ever meet, I will require him to call me “Squad Leader” since that was my last duty position. You have to be some kind of arrogant to require people to refer to you by your full (made up) title at all times. By the way, if anyone replies to this, you will refer to me as Squad Leader Overkill.

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reaganmarine84 October 5, 2012 at 07:08 pm

The KSG is a pump isn’t it. That guy is firing this thing like a semi-auto. Call me impressed.

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matt October 5, 2012 at 08:16 pm

The LE models are setup to slam fire.

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Max October 6, 2012 at 12:51 am

That’s why he looks like a boss, but isn’t.

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ROB October 6, 2012 at 12:49 pm

I’ll keep my winchester 1897 thanks. I hope we see more videos from senor team leeder clown shoes. Like a supporting comedian to buck yeager

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FarmerJoe October 5, 2012 at 10:20 pm

The ratio of clowns to top notch operators in corrections is no different than any other field. Barney Fifes and Buck Yeagers everywhere.

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Jim P. October 6, 2012 at 11:33 pm

I can see some of the tests being valid. The stair test was good. The drop test was good. But if I were a CO in a prison riot situation — I’d back out until I can go in with at least a partner, if not a team.

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Josh October 8, 2012 at 02:14 pm

They aren’t prison guards, they are a law enforcement government contracting agency, they train swat teams how to handle hostage situations inside prisons and reenforced structures. They also trained the DHS ICE how to transport terrorists and cartel members and aircraft hostage rescue.

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mandingo October 8, 2012 at 11:13 pm

You seem to know a bit, and to have been impressed by what you heard / read somewhere.

Do you have, or have you seen a resume for Senior Team Lea… geez, I can’t even type it with a straight face.

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TC October 9, 2012 at 12:53 am

http://www.correctionsone.com/writers/columnists/joseph-garcia/
I could barely read the thing because of the number of times “Senior” or “STL” was used.
I know he has some heavy dollars behind him from somewhere. I also know his disciples will descend on you with a vengeance if they hear a bismerchment of the STL’s name.
I have seen his group at some corrections shows and was not impressed by the swagger or antics. I do not know him personally, but people I do know and respect don’t like him, hence I base my judgement on that. Enough said.

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SqDb October 24, 2012 at 05:06 pm

I put a few rounds downrange with a KSG. No “Tier 1” shooting, mind you, just square range stuff. It handled nicely (though the stock will beat your face up on a long enough timeline) and shot very well. I didn’t find the controls to be any more difficult than firing any other gun with which I’m not familiar.

I’d *like* to think that with 1+7+7 rounds on deck, switching from one tube to the other wouldn’t be any more complicated than reloading an 870 w an +2 mag extension (7+1). Sounds like mainly a training issue.

The overall short length seems to be a huge plus. Easy to maneuver and much less gun out in front of ya for a couple desperate prisoners to make a grab at.

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Not a Thug June 10, 2013 at 08:16 pm

Got a good laugh, thanks Mr. Team Leeder……is this in Mexico?

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