The zombies will never know what hit them:
A shooting test with it attached to a M&P 15-22 rifle:
That is damn quiet! I still can’t help but wonder if we are being tricked though, and he just hollowed out a Maglite and slipped a real suppressor inside it.
You might remember the Maglite suppressors from this season of The Walking Dead. Maybe it’s not that far fetched after all? 
Thoughts?
Hat tip: Steve
When I was overseas in 2006/2007 we used to make suppressors to play with while on perimeter guard. We made ones for our M4s out of water bottles and miscellaneous shit laying around- tape, red bull cans, cloth, etc. They were pretty fun for hunting foxes and stuff.
Someone also made one for their M9 using a minimag light as the inner tube, epoxy, steel wool, and a series of Red Bull can bottoms as Baffles. It worked decent, but neither were Hollywood quiet or comparable to to a real one, but made them much quieter than nothing.
All that shit said, I am going to say that it is entirely possible that this is real.
its possible and highly probable that this is a real thing, however i dont believe it to be very effective due to my testing. i have a video on my youtube channel of a Form 1 maglite suppressor(that you can find plans for easily using some google-fu.). its a friends suppressor shot on his mac 11 with lage upper. the can was drilled for 9mm i believe (dont quote me on it, ATF). on a 22 subgun at least its not very effective. sure it muffles the report of the firearm but not as much as a dedicated 22 can does and thats all due to physics.
the only rimfire can on the market that i can think of that comes even close to this is the thompson chd. its 1.5″ OD by 6.75″ aka much shorter than this thing.
that being said, i do believe it to be real, how effective is up to the shooter. without getting big into the science behind suppressor design (dater holes, first round pop, freebore boost) this can isnt effective for 22lr. if the baffles will stay in place, 9mm or 45 would be better suited.
There’s every reason to believe it would be effective with a large number of baffles. This is pretty much what most Parker Hale silencers look like internally, and these cans are extremely quiet on a 22 rimfire.
with a large number of baffles, yes. there is a point of diminishing returns with 22lr on a long barrel though. there is a reason why most 22lr can on the market are 22oz or less, even made out of SS. the SS sparrow is a monocore design with clamshells and an outer tube and its still well under 10oz.
also, getting the area between the blast baffle and the threads down to a minimum would help alleviate the FRP issues. a can of that volume would be very loud for the first two or three shots on a rifle simply due to volume.
i meant to say 10oz, not 22oz. been a long day of moving.
Fucking sweet!! My friend made a silencer once for his 380 auto handgun. He shot it in public and no one noticed. I’ve never seen one made from a flashlight though!!
Well, for one thing, there are two different flashlights. The one in the first video is, as he said, a cheap auto parts store special, while the one in the second video is a Maglite (or close copy thereof.)
One presumes, since he’s showing a functional unit and his unblurred face, that he built and registered the Maglite version, and was just using the cheap light as a demo for the how-to video.
Doc.
OMG I made one of these out of a Maglite for my 10/22 months ago. Didn’t know others had the same idea. Mine looked like a working light to anyone looking at it.
I wouldn’t be totally surprised that someone asked for a Surefire ‘silencer’. Somebody in the prop department googled Surefire, and stopped looking once they saw that Surefire made flashlights. “Okay, we’re making prop silencers from flashlights!”
…..surefire already makes suppressors.
That’s the joke…?
Yes, I know. But why buy a functioning suppressor, if your prop guys can build a look-alike for a lot less hassle?
Sweet, this will be perfect for zombie preparedness.
I always knew it could be done, not sure why everyone got all up in arms about it, I mean you can use and oil filer as a suppressor, why wouldn’t a 7075 flashlight frame work.
Yeah I wouldn’t expect it to handle any real (see: not 22LR) rifle rounds though. Are you sure it’s 7075 btw? I highly doubt this cheapo flashlight tube is 7 series aluminum.
True, the knock off maglite clone I got from HF for 25 bucks was 6061, still good enough for .22lr I would even trust it to 9mm. When I did my form 1 can, I did use Titanium. But In a pinch, I would do this with out thinking about it.
My question is how it would work with .223/5.56? The pressures would naturally be higher. What would the suppression be like?
Probably wouldn’t be safe, for the same reason why you shouldn’t use a pistol suppressor on a rifle unless the manufacturer states you can.
It’s commonplace to use a 7.62 suppressor on a 5.56 but never 9mm (which is larger than even 7.62) because of the pressures involved. This is vague information I’m divvying out but I think it’s correct.
Just a thought… If I was to ever make a video about the effectiveness of a homemade can, I would make damn sure the first thirty seconds of the video were a close up of the NFA tax stamp I got before building the can. Otherwise, the video can be used against you in a court of law.
They’re a licensed manufacturer bro. They don’t need no stamp. They don’t even have to notify the ATF that they’re going to be making a title 2 device or weapon. They fill out the form AFTER it’s done.
I don’t think showing internet legality trolls your NFA stamps is something worth doing because it’s really none of anyone’s business. If you were making a video to put online about the effectiveness of a homemade can, and you were making it illegally then you deserve to be caught.
ENDO-Mike, with all due respect, I am not a troll. I did not know that the posters of the video are in fact, a Class 3 manufacturer. Nothing in the video led me to believe what they were doing was legal. My gut reaction to this video was “gee… a bunch of rednecks making NFA devices.” Maybe I am overly cautious, but when a video like this that can be seen by anybody online, not starting with “what we are doing is totaly legal for reasons XYZ” is inviting trouble. Either by copy cats who don’t know that law, or by over zealoys law enforcement who think they just found low haning fruit for a raid. Too many people post videos of themselves doing stupid things on the internet. When those stupid things are done with guns, it reflects poorly on the gun owning community as a whole. We owe it to ourselves to make sure what we do is on the up and up. Personally, I’d rather give the obligatory “we are professionals, don’t try this at home” than have to worry about answering the door to a SWAT team.
I see where you’re coming from, but I prefer not to live my life thinking that the SWAT team could kick down the door because someone at the ATF saw a youtube video and didn’t take two seconds to query the database for my name to see if a business and corresponding stamps or a manufacturers licence pop up.
What’s next, every young kid posting videos of them in their cars on youtube taking a picture of their licence? People doing stupid stuff with alcohol showing ID? I stand by what I said that it’s really none of anyone’s business, and that guilt should automatically not be assumed.
I fundamentally agree with you. That said, I would not give my local ATF office the benefit of the doubt that they would check with HQ to make sure my paperwork is in order before kicking down my door. Nor, would they say it was their duty to check on my paperwork, before kicking down my door. How many videos have been posted on this very site of cops treating people who are engaged in lawful open carry like criminals? Yes, they are innocent until proven guilty. That time honored, constitutionally protected right didn’t stop them from getting handcuffed while taking a face full of pavement.
Another thing I was just thinking of is so what if someone flashes a tax stamp on camera. How do you even know it’s the correct one? Do you need to see up close matching serial numbers in order to shake your paranoia? Even then, how can you be sure it wasn’t doctored with photoshop or something in post production on the video? See this is just getting too crazy. What you’re asking for to me ends up being basically the same as what the people that are anti gun want… a bunch of useless “checks and balances” that don’t end up making a bit of difference. Maybe for any gun related video that’s posted online you’d like to see an NCIS background check on the people handling the firearms? One you could verify in person at your local field office of course. Gotta make sure no felons are handling guns right? See what I’m getting at?
Just to let you know, Class 3 does not mean anything when it comes to manufacturing (simplified).
The “Class 3″ that most firearm owners throw around erroneously refers to the VENDOR FFL the business has. It is a Class 3 FFL that merely allows them to SELL and TRANSFER title 2 weapons like machine guns and suppressors. It literally has NOTHING to do with manufacturing. A company like COLT or BUSHMASTER probably do NOT have CLASS 3 FFL’s (for all intents and purposes of this argument to demonstrate my point).
So basically saying they’re a “class 3 manufacturer” is erroneous because that is a type of FFL (gun vendor license).
They’re allowed to manufacture title 2 weaponry on a completely different license.
FWIW: This is also a pet peeve of mine.
Class 1 – Importers of Title 2 items
Class 2 – Manufacturers of Title 2 items
Class 3 – Dealers of Title 2 items
Class 1 and 2 can also sell, but Class 3 cannot directly manufacture or import.
Just to be a little picky, why is it illegal?
Where is the NFA, 68 GCA, or any of the rest of the restrictions mentioned?
Just as where is it said in the First that you have a right to blog?
So the government has a right to restrict your access to suppressors, full auto, etc, but doesn’t have a right to restrict what you say?
Like I said — being picky.
I don’t make the rules, so I’m assuming your first question was rhetorical. As far as I know gun blogging hasn’t been deemed illegal yet.
Yes, because the ATF has so much man power they search the net 24/7 for people making illegal suppressors, and how do they know he lives in the US? No they wont use facial recognition software to determine who he is, and they need a comparative picture to do that anyway.
Hillbillys here in town would stuff 2 liter bottles with toilet paper and duct tape it around a bolt action .22lr’s barrel. It only worked well for the first shot and probably isn’t very safe but I saw more than one varmit silently sent to the other side using them.
no registered suppresser here i come lol
haha this is awesome! Hey does anybody want to meet up to talk about unregistered suppressors or the walking dead or whatever? We could hang out at your manufacturing location and drink a beer and talk about not filling out paperwork and sports and stuff. Just post your address or GPS coordinates or whatever.
Hmmm, he never actually assembles the suppressor……..and you can’t confirm if the suppressor is even real in the second video……..I’m sensing there is much butt hurt amongst some of the comments.
This is too much hassle, just google fu “oil filter supressor” its easier and less hassle
The econocan will not last nearly as long.
Douche bag southern fried bubba can’t even pronounce “Neoprene.”
This dude is behind FPS Russia and all those videos and safely the guy in these two pages was found bound and gagged and shot in the head I saw it on YouTube….poor guy rip
I have a question along with a statement, so I will try to make it as short as I can. I was a sniper while in the Army, “no I am not one of those guys.” So with all the rifle training and shooting I have done I am nearly deaf in my left ear and over 60% deaf in my right ear. And I wore the issued hearing protection along with earmuff hearing protection. I know laws are there for one reason or the other, and some people have strong opinions that they are either for or against those laws and also about people making suppressors “legally or illegally.” But why do you have to have a stamp and pay $200 just to add an attachment to your firearm so it will not affect your hearing so bad. A suppressor will not take all the sound away like Hollywood would like for you to think. So why, what is the reasoning for requiring a person to pay money just because they don’t want to be like me and have to wear hearing aids when they are 30 years old. Please answer with a real reason other than “because they said so”, I want to know, WHY.
“Hillbillys here in town would stuff 2 liter bottles with toilet paper and duct tape it around a bolt action .22lr’s barrel. It only worked well for the first shot and probably isn’t very safe but I saw more than one varmit silently sent to the other side using them”.
A bottle suppressor should work pretty well for the first 3 to 5 shots, with only a slight increase is noisy, which can be remedied by shaking the bottle or running a rod into it to reposition the stuffing, and then adding more stuffing. That way the next round makes a new hole through the material.
They don’t make the weapon silent, they only suppress some of the sound. For example; A .22 WMR will sound about like a .22 short. You hear mostly the crack of the bullet. If you want completely silent operation(everything except the fall of the firing pin and the impact of the bullet on target) then you have to slow the bullet down to less than 1180 ft per second.
Not difficult to do. The hard part is getting close enough to your target to get a shot off, and then exfil. without being detected.