Israeli Tier 0 Operator Defends His Derp

From the Asymmetric Derp Warfare post… Operator Ben Goldstein stopped by with this lengthy rebuttal comment:

I must admit, the individual who took my video off of my website, and then inserted his own information into it (headlines, description, some utter nonsense about “Tier Zero Operator” or whatever it was, is a talented hack. Why someone would want to do such a thing is something I am still trying to figure out. Anyone here who isn’t a half wit can simply compare the original with what is posted above. That copyright infringement and hack of a video is not my own.
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At no time am I in front of a shooter while a pistol is loaded. That means ever. In 10 years of training groups of civilians and LE both in the USA and Israel, I have never had a safety infraction or a ND.

I will never speak of my own merits or lack thereof. Rather, I let those who I train speak for me. Ego is not something I bring to the training session. I leave each session with no voice, bruised and bloodied. I give it my soul and I expect the same in return from those who train with me. The verbal and physical stress I induce is just that. Never do I put a shooter down. Ever. Respect is a two way street.

Of course, this IS the internet and everyone has their opinions and remarks to make based on snippets of video, and none of the folks doing so have ever participated amongst the hundreds of shooters I have trained. Now, if you would like to comment AFTER running through a course with me, then by all means, have at it. But, to talk out of your mouth as if you are talking out of your ass is just that…talk.

Put up or shut up. Next time I am stateside, I invite any instructor or any person for that matter, to take a session and then I welcome your thoughts and critiques afterwards. Don’t simply spew the stuff you learned during your NRA instructors course, or maybe learned during your annual 2 day training session at _______ tactical movie stars training facility. Grab your pistol and a few mags, please don’t show up dressed like a SWAT operator on crack, bring an open mature mindset to learn techniques created by and used by the Israeli Counter Terror Training schools and operators (tweaked for use in the American market,) and then argue with me, face to face, like a man, as to WHY the methods I teach are “wrong”, or “stupid”, or whatever term you have used to describe them. I truly welcome the opportunity. I always ask those I teach to argue with me at every turn. We build better warriors by learning from each other.

Aggression, developing keen situational awareness, efficiency of movement, and establishing a warrior mindset…these are the primary goals in the training. If you are an olympic shooter, thats great. if you are fairly new to handguns, that’s also great. You own a custom tricked out multi barrel Glock 3000 handed down to your grandfather, father and then to you by the late Col Cooper? Awesome! Now lets use it and abuse it to see when and why it fails.

All training is based on techniques used daily by the Israeli counter terror instructors and operators. These are people who I work with daily, who I have been working closely with for over 12 years, and are the top in their fields in Israel. I am not, nor will I ever claim to be, an uber tacticool Ninja. But I am an aggressive warrior who faces fear and danger and moves forward into it. Those are not hollow words.

I never suggest that one method is superior to another. But I always suggest people have an open mind to soak in other techniques and methodologies.
If this sounds negative to you, there is no hope for you. Continue with your flaming and your keyboard commando rants. It’s probably all you will ever be good for anyways, so enjoy your 15 minutes.

The Israeli method is extremely aggressive, with nearly continuous forward/attack based movement. It’s fast and violent and unforgiving. It is not what you are used to. It is not Politically Correct. Our shopping mall guards are trained better in counter terror and suicide bomber interdiction than most shooters will ever be Stateside. That is simply a fact of life of where we live and where you live.

We do things that you have never seen before and your initial reaction is to discount anything that you haven’t seen done by one of the instructors you are already familiar with. Shit, it’s come to a point where if you don’t have a goatee and are on national TV or in SWAT mag, you aren’t worth the time of day. If this is the approach you take, I feel sorry for your immaturity and ignorance.

The folks who train with me range from fairly new to the world of firearms, to LE, to Combat Focus trained instructors, to Federal LE Instructors, to students of Vickers, Rogers and other instructors. They are typically not one-off students. They come back each and every year for more. they are also range owners/operators, Former US Army Rangers, former Marines and just about everything in between.

Again, to stress the obvious, the things you see on a video clip may be from someone who just picked up a pistol or rifle for the first time. The methods you see (one handed scanning, shooting on the run, using verbal and physical methods to create stress and confusion, verifying the condition of your firearm before advancing, learning how to properly insert a magazine while maintaining situational awareness, chambering a rifle/carbine while bringing it into fire position…etc…) are all methods that if you actually spent the energy to train on them, you may actually learn something new and effective. In case you haven’t heard, Israeli’s have been fighting terror long before 2001.

For those that disagree, you are entitled to disagree, unless that right has been stripped from you as well under this administration.

I wish you all peace and comfort.
Ben Goldstein

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Looks like his feathers were ruffled enough to have the video pulled from YouTube.  I’m not sure why he would bother getting it removed since he defends everything in it in his comment.  What a shame.

Operator-Ben-Goldstein-Israeli-Combat-TrainingA lot of big talk in that comment of his.

Thoughts?  If you want to reply to him, here is the link directly to his comment.

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David May 24, 2013 at 03:44 am

He’s such a douche, he doesn’t even know how youtube works.

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JRKey May 24, 2013 at 04:47 am

Him and Buck Yeager should be lovers.

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pointblank4445 May 24, 2013 at 11:14 am

He DID take a play out of “Buck’s” playbook:

“When manhood/credibility is challenged, counter with ‘come to my training and see for yourself’. If still challenged, use ‘put up or shut up’ rebuttle…and pray that you are insignificant enough or they are not spiteful enough to call your bluff.”

Also who the fuck still uses the term “hack” in reference to computers today? Is it 1995 again?

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Will May 26, 2013 at 09:41 pm

Note that he did say hack, not a hacker. A hack is someone who slaps something together quick and dirty. In the days of printed media, it was often some form of writer hired to do cheap, shoddy articles to fill the pages.
I think his use of the word is correct if the rest of the comments are anything to go by, not that I watched the video in question. If Mike uses the word “operator”, I just shy away :p

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JoeDeke May 24, 2013 at 05:19 am

TL;DR

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Adam May 24, 2013 at 08:20 am

This

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megatronz0r May 25, 2013 at 04:07 pm

i got to video hack and gave up…

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J May 24, 2013 at 05:41 am

“Our shopping mall guards are trained better in counter terror and suicide bomber interdiction than most shooters will ever be Stateside. ”

Gecko45 moved to Israel?

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PJ May 24, 2013 at 08:00 am

Mall security guards in the US are bad enough without being trained to shoot people. Personally I consider it a plus that we don’t have to train people for that kind of stuff.

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denver chris May 24, 2013 at 06:38 am
Dallas May 24, 2013 at 07:58 am
denver chris May 24, 2013 at 08:15 am

shit, man, why’d I use that old and trite expression? I’ve been dying to use this .gif for a while

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denver chris May 24, 2013 at 08:16 am
Dallas May 24, 2013 at 09:56 am
carl May 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm

map people make me laugh

http://i.imgur.com/9v68YaU.gif

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waterman May 24, 2013 at 07:38 am

tl/dr

narcissistic much?

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elephantrider May 24, 2013 at 08:48 am

tl/dr

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d0zer May 24, 2013 at 08:25 am

The man and his training aside, I really am baffled at those that think simply responding “tl/dr” reflects well upon themselves. Not that anyone’s primary goal in life should be to have everyone “like” them. But it strikes me as more than a little ironic that someone would feel compelled to respond to something they feel is foolish with a patently asinine meme.

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Mark May 24, 2013 at 08:36 am

tl;dr

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BBJones May 24, 2013 at 11:50 am

tl;dr

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Regulus May 24, 2013 at 09:04 am

lol

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Monkeysuit May 24, 2013 at 09:52 am

I shoot with guys who go over and counter train with guys over in israel and friendly countries nearby. If they didn’t see a reason to bring it back and start training folks/even showing it to folks, that kinda speaks to it’s worth as a shooting technique.

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Al T. May 24, 2013 at 10:45 am

“how to properly insert a magazine while maintaining situational awareness, chambering a rifle/carbine while bringing it into fire position…etc…) are all methods that if you actually spent the energy to train on them, you may actually learn something new and effective.”

The only problem is that none of those things shown in the video were “new and effective”. I’m not going to list examples, but there is a reason mainstream trainers with proven credentials and results do not endorse sloppy ass manipulations and constant Rule 4 violations. Just like the “Spetsnaz” guy, someone will end up bleeding before this clown quits.

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Grim May 24, 2013 at 02:32 pm

Only one response to a whining session veiled as a response to constructive criticism…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB3tOGiZ6UM

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Nick May 24, 2013 at 05:53 pm

i LOL’d so hard when i saw that lolol

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Beavis May 24, 2013 at 08:13 pm

Lighten up, Francis.

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SittingDown May 24, 2013 at 11:07 pm

huhuhuhuh

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SittingDown May 24, 2013 at 11:06 pm

Buck Goldstein. (R)etarded.

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fcp502 May 25, 2013 at 07:59 am

I’ve done a bit of the Israeli shooting techniques, (not with this instructor) and my biggest issue with this training system is that many of the techniques are obsolete. Please keep in mind that these techniques were designed to teach a large number of people with little or no shooting experience to shoot effectively in a combat environment in a very short period of time, and with little ammo. For them it seems to work.

The Israelis believe in responding to an aggressive attack with more and overwhelming aggression. THAT is the nugget you can get from watching this video.

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DoubleTap May 25, 2013 at 11:11 am

Whewwwwwww that was good. I almost passed out.

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Fredrico May 26, 2013 at 01:24 pm

LMAO, U MAD BRO?
Seriously, that shit is weak sauce.
Bagel Tactical needs an overhaul.
The only reason Israel seems to be “good” is because there enemies are retards.

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Dr Kranknstein May 28, 2013 at 11:21 pm

Seriously man I am in no way operator, tier whatever…etc etc, but even my amateur ass had several laughs at this shit when I watched it. Normally my attention level on stuff like this is about a minute. However this was pure internet gold here. “Flap arms like duck before reloading”, And the fuckin off hand in front of face to distract…WTF!! Only thing it missed was pistol whipping with a loaded firearm.

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Morgan May 26, 2016 at 09:45 am

The email says it all LOL:

AlwaysAttack@Gmail.com

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