haha BURN IT DOWN. Wirty Dhore just dropped this video called “How To ATF”:

hahah ok then.  Man flamethrowers are so awesome.  I’d be a bit nervous having a tank of fuel on my back though.




You just know some neckbeard from Reddit is currently preparing his letter to the ATF to ask for their judgement on this.  Then there will be a letter issued by the ATF… and that letter will be ambiguous.  Just in case though people will start baking their own twinkies, but they won’t call them twinkies and they will be a different color so it will be ok (grey area) to use them as suppressors for the time being.

Yea you laugh at the Twinkie NFA item thing… but the ATF determined a 14″ shoestring was a machine gun so I really wouldn’t put it it past them.


Gat tip: SayUncle


It’s like this:

Aladdin-ATF-Firearms-MemeOh you thought you could wrap a shoestring around your trigger? WRONG. :P


So the ATF made this up a few days ago:


Then an absolute comment massacre took place on their facebook post about it.  Some guys have NO CHILL whatsoever and give zero shits ahhahha good entertainment.

Thoughts?  Did you add your own comment on the post?  I’m staying out of this one.


Leeland-Yee-De-Leon-Ghost-Gun-PalsManufacturing and selling in mass quantities?  345 guns seized in one case!  Legit serial numbered lowers are under $100, so obviously the criminal element were the customers.  If they are doing something illegal with it, it’s not like they care that it has a serial number or not on it anyway… this just made it easier to get because they wouldn’t have to get a stolen one etc…  I just don’t understand how the guy(s) at the Sacramento machine shop they busted could have thought this was a good idea in any capacity.  Probably just are so dumb, they thought they were too smart to get caught is my guess.



How to:

LOL the comments.  I find it hard to believe that the ATF itself is that worked up about this.  Politicians who don’t care to know any better, sure I can see that… but the ATF?  Surely there are bigger issues facing the F part of their job than people making AR-15 lowers off the books?  If not, I’d really like to see the stats on how many thousand murders happen every year with home machined AR-15 lowers.  The 2010 FBI crime statistic data for murders with weapons shows that rifles really aren’t used all that much in murders.  I look the liberty of totaling the columns from the FBI’s neatly provided Excel file and here’s what we have for the 2010 year:

  • Total Murders With Handguns – 6,009
  • Total Murders With Rifles – 358
  • Total Murders With Shotguns – 373
  • Total Murders With Firearms (type unknown) – 2,035

Total Murders With Firearms – 8,775

  • Total Murders With Knives or Cutting Instruments – 1,704
  • Total Murders With Other weapons – 1,772
  • Total Murders With Hands, Fists, Feet, Etc.. – 745

Total Murders With Weapons other than firearms – 4,221

Grand Total of Murders With Weapons – 12,996

Since we’re talking about rifles here, note that the FBI murder count for the year of 2010 is 358 people.  I’m not really sure why there are 2035 murders where the firearm is “unknown” (poor bookkeeping? poor state agency reporting?) but even if for kicks we say half them are rifles, that still makes rifles statistically less dangerous than knives.  Who knows though, since those stats are from 2010, maybe rifles have become the choice of murderers everywhere?  I doubt it, but maybe the ATF knows something we don’t.

I think it would be really interesting if we could get the numbers on how many of these murders were justifiable homicide.  This is EXTREMELY important.  Additionally, I’d like to know if suicide is included… because if it is I don’t think those numbers should count for obvious reasons.  Lastly, I’d like to know what percentage of the guns were owned legally, and how many were owned and used by already known criminals.

Whenever I see stats like this I can’t help but think to myself “…and people think firearms are the problem?”.  Look at the CDC (Centers for Disease Control & Prevention) Leading Causes Of Death data and tell me there aren’t bigger issues plaguing the country which should be focused on.


Gat tip: Dale