Beretta logo.. Made In USA… Riiiiiiiiiiighhhht….
That thing is atrocious!
Rough translation of key points from the article:
Police said 19-year-old gang brother Zhuangren dimension, usually in the mountains more than 10 hotels Wai things put in charge possession of force, at any time ordered to carry weapons to parts of the scenes; within the lake precinct office yesterday morning to Linsen North Road, Suite A search in 7th floor “gun room” seized wheel and 6 rounds of canister-type shotgun, as well as four pistols, one a standard for the Beretta, and the other three for the transformation of the gun, and 15 bullets, blanks 19 made. The initial inventory, guns from the nickname “God pig” man.
This is the very large wheel shotguns, can be filled with 6 rounds of shotgun, the gun body are all constructed of steel, a short gun, weighing more than 3 kilograms, there is no rifling, can also be fitted sight, external trigger is not Buckle have no insurance, fill out bombs loaded on the mean, believe it or mistakenly pulled the trigger will fire, very dangerous.
black market prices have risen 200000-300000 yuan.
According to currency converters that is equivalent to approximately $6200 – $9300 USD (Thanks for the correction Bill)
Guns must be incredibly hard to get there if that is the going price for a piece of crap like that. :lol:
Original Chinese Article – HERE
Google Translated Version – HERE
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The concept is great, the execution shaky. Imagine if it were produced by a reputable firm? It would in theory be faster loading than a pump shotgun and only a little slower than an automatic but would (in theory) be more reliable than both.
I agree tube mags are a pain in the ass to load quickly. Especially since there is no tool (that I know of) to speed up the process.
I agree that a revolver setup like this would be marginally faster as is.. but what I really think would give it the upper hand in speed is if you had the 6 shells pre-positioned in a “moon clip” designed similar to what we use on revolvers. (Uh oh maybe I just gave the Taiwan gangsters a new idea :P)
There are tools to speed load tube shotgun magazines. Here’s a short YouTube video where one is being used: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk0y8NxHhq4
Holy, that is pretty awesome! Do you know if his shotgun needed to be modified in order to use that?
No modification is required. The shooter’s look commercially-produced but you can make such a speedloader out of pvc tubes (2 sizes), a piece of dowel rod, a screw and a piece of innertube (for holding the shells in place prior to use). Works on all tube magazines, even lever actions, but must be purpose-made for each gun.
Interesting.. ill have to try that. Thanks Rasputin!
Take a look at http://speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?ID=TEC and note the small guide clamped near the loading latch. You can replace the guide with a bulkier unit, http://speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?ID=AASFR , for a bigger “target” to push the speedloader into.
This latch makes loading a bit easier and won’t draw funny looks if you use the same shotgun for hunting/skeet as well as 3gun matches. http://speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?ID=AASFR
Awesome, thanks Don!
If it’s going to be any good, it can’t function just like a typical double-action revolver. Shotshells are much more massive than normal revolver cartridges…. not to mention quite a bit bigger, so more of their mass is out away from the axis of rotation (meaning the moment of rotational inertia is greater). The force it would take to rotate that cylinder around would be massive. Which means the trigger pull would be off the scale. The “Street Sweeper” shotguns which use the same revolver cylinder principle have springs (that have to be re-wound each time you load it) that push the cylinder around.
Well Taurus already makes one of these…not in 12 gauge tho as it were. .410 seems to fit the bill. I wouldn’t sneak up on this and shoot it.
Well it seems copying is the sincerest form of flattery. Very very rough looking but as noted before a good concept. By the way the currency in Taiwan is not Yuan (China) but Taiwan New Dollars. So if the converters are working at xe.com, 200,000 to 300,000 TWD equates to $6.2K to $9.3K.
Thanks Bill! I updated the price and credited you in the post.
i want one bad. that looks like even more fun than a serbu super shorty
What if it was a gas-operated revolver, like a mateba ?
The mateba pistols are actually recoil operated, the have a slide which cocks the hammer and operated the mechanism that rotates the cylinder.
needs moar rails ;)
That revolver needs a couple of speedloaders!!
gun possession in taiwan is a capital offence.
Good post!
This is why one shouldn’t write articles based on Google Translate.
The article says that police confiscated the weapon amongst others from a 7th floor apartment. It wasn’t created by the Taiwanese nor is it for sale (obviously because personal firearms are generally illegal in Taiwan unless you’ve got a sports license) and although the article does note the really prominent “Made in USA” suggests perhaps the weapon was smuggled from the USA.
Also the figure of 200,000 to 300,000 New Taiwan Dollars (not Yuan) is the criminal fine for each illegal weapon possession and NOT the price of the weapon.
It says it was made in an underground armory in Hsing-chu or Nantou. Also confiscated previously were the blueprints and tooling. It also says that because the supply has been cut off the black market price has risen to [the equivalent of] $6200 to $9300 USD.
This is why one shouldn’t write comments correcting others based on a marginal understanding (at best) of the original article.
I think I saw this in ‘Who framed Roger Rabbit”
LOL now I need to re-watch that movie!
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I don’t know if anyone else noticed, but it said it could be loaded with 6 rounds, but the first pic looks like the cylinder is a 5-shot.
I’d have to shoot it atleast once.
I can’t really tell by the two pics whether or not it holds 5 or 6. I wouldn’t be shocked if you are correct though.
I know this is a late comment, but have you noticed the placement of the front grip? It puts your hand even with the cylinder-barrel gap!
You had better not shoot this without wearing very heavy gloves!
Yea not ideal! Keep in mind though, that it is firing out of the top location of the cylinder.
It can function just like a revolver, when i was in Danao, Philippines scalping talent for my personal projects i came across a old guy who built a 12 shot 12 ga Revolver on a 1911 style frame it functioned perfectly and was as smooth as any S&W i have ever shot…
He also built a S&W 29 copy in 30-06.. yes you read that correct… it was as smooth as my old S&W 29, just a weee bit more recoil then my 300gr hunting loads… And i have photos of me shooting both….
And it goes to show, Gun laws will never prevent guns from been made and supplied to criminals or revolutionaries….. Danao is a perfect example…
That’s awesome Adam. Do you have any homemade gun pics from that trip?
I do indeed……have photos…… where do you want me to email some too….
The place is worth a look for anyone with a interest in firearms…
It’s far from being a piece of crap, although crude looking it seems very sturdy, reliable and well built