Effectively Not Dispelling Any Myths About The 1911’s Accuracy

Larry just wanted to call someone bro and use some hand gestures because it was raining all week and his wife was driving him up the wall:

Larry-Vickers-Hover-SunglassesInteresting looking camouflage type targets they are shooting at.  Probably a decent idea since real life targets aren’t perfect black & white silhouettes.

1:32 – Why does LAV bring the gun down, then back up on every shot?  Is that some DELTA operator stuff I wouldn’t understand?

This vid was useless at dispelling any myth considering LAV and him DIDN’T EACH SHOOT BOTH GUNS.  Maybe LAV would have put all 7 rounds in one ragged hole with the WWII 1911?

Thoughts?

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RCA_Cajun January 7, 2015 at 06:33 am

He brings the gun down after every shot to alleviate fatigue. Common practice if you are slowly shooting for precision/ accuracy while unsupported.

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MacMoov January 7, 2015 at 06:53 am

When I saw the video, the first thing that came to mind is they are not shooting the WW2 era 1911 the same way the WW2 soldiers were taught how to shoot. They were taught to fire one handed (i.e. bullseye style) or with the support hand on the wrist. The modern two-handed hold is much more accurate than the old method.

Here is an example of the way WW2 vets were trained.
http://photos.manderson.com/photos/i-q3Rpjbf/0/M/i-q3Rpjbf-M.jpg

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dracon1201 January 7, 2015 at 07:59 am

Aye, however, they are testing the gun, not the stance. So it wouldn’t make sense to change the stance.

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MacMoov January 7, 2015 at 08:05 am

True. I guess I was referring to the impression that 1911’s were not accurate. They did mention in the video that were not given much training during the war. The training they did receive makes it harder to maintain accuracy.

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seans January 7, 2015 at 10:16 am

Where have you heard of holding the wrist.

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MacMoov January 7, 2015 at 10:20 am

Speaking with some vets from WW2 and Korean wars. Photo link above shows you a Marine who said he learned how to shoot pistols this way in the Marines.

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seans January 7, 2015 at 01:37 pm

WWII 1911 .45 CAL Pistol Training (720p): http://youtu.be/jP7J-JNSUu4

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Vitsaus January 7, 2015 at 10:27 am

One must also remember that shooting stance aside, there is mortar fire, machine gun fire, rifle fire, adrenaline, enemies running at you out of nowhere (hence your pistol being drawn in the first place) and all this trying to line up sights, hands shaking from stress, etc… People notice the difficult of shooting on a course when an instructor is banging pots and pans next to their head, thats a fraction of what a shooter is experiencing in something like WWII.

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Pete January 7, 2015 at 10:32 am

Nicely done vid – I wonder where they dug that vintage ammo up! I agree that they should have traded guns and done another course of fire to get the whole picture.

I’ve been pondering doing a 1911 receiver build for my first .45, similar to milling out an AR lower. I like that idea even more now…

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Tom in Wisconsin January 7, 2015 at 02:49 pm

The targets are really effective in making you shoot center mass. Up close you can see the lines on them (eye box, x-ring, etc.), but as you back off all that is seen in the rough outline. If you are not able to hold center mass you will be all over the paper. They are a very effective teaching tool.

As for old ammo, it is out there. I have shot WWI and WWII ammo that a friend of mine has. Some was steel case, some was match, many of the bullets were staked in place. It all worked better than some of the newer 22LR that is on the market these days…

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umop_3pisdn January 8, 2015 at 04:45 pm

the targets are cool, but if youre trying to measure accuracy shouldnt you be using a bullseye target…?
not to mention firing the guns from some kind of rest

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ENDO-Mike January 8, 2015 at 04:48 pm

haha yea exactly. In LAV’s world though you just let one guy fire it and form an opinion.

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