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And pull the trigger *facepalm*… I can’t believe stuff like this happens:

Philadelphia, PA – about 1:15 a.m., the teen was video-chatting — police believe it was either over Skype or another video-chat service called ooVoo — with an as-yet-unidentified person while his brothers were asleep in the room in their Kensington house.

Sometime during the video chat, things went horribly wrong.

“His manhood or his ego was challenged and he said something along the lines of, ‘I’ll show you,'” Gallagher said. “He thought he was clowning around, trying to shock the other party on the Internet site.”

That’s when the teen picked up his older brother’s gun and, believing it was unloaded, put it to his head and pulled the trigger, police said.

Full Story – HERE

Needless to say the kid is likely going to die.  Tragic…

I’m glad cooler heads prevailed and no one was charged with anything.  I was bracing for something like “the person that challenged his manhood will be charged with murder”.

Thoughts?

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In related news Nancy Grace is still obnoxious:

Elly ELLY ELLLLLLLYYY 9:17AM?! Isn’t that a little early to be showing off your AK-47 in the bathroom

OMG like nails on a chalkboard.  What difference does the time of day make?  Maybe they get up early?  Either way I don’t see how the time is relevant.

She was commenting on the brightness of the laser scope on the weapon

The terms they make up are priceless.

The villainizing of the actual gun is this is incredible as usual.  That said, unloaded guns that shoot bullets are dangerous and should be banned.  It’s always unloaded when accidents happen…

4 RULES of firearm safety… learn them.

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No I’m not talking about a sale they are having, I’m talking about:

Lynnwood, WA – A man accidentally shot himself in the testicles at Lowe’s Home Improvement store in Lynnwood Sunday afternoon, police said.

The man’s handgun, which was in the waistband of his pants, went off at about 12:30 p.m. — an apparent “accidental discharge,” according to Shannon Sessions, a Lynnwood police spokeswoman.

Full Story – HERE

Embarrassing!  That’s what you get for being a dumbass and not buying a cheap holster though ( like NY Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress also should have ).

The only accident discharge here was the one he probably had in his pants.

I’d consider this one also a negligent discharge, and not an accidental one, considering his investment in a holster could have prevented this from happening, and he would still have both of his testicles intact. I’m glad to hear that no one else was hurt.

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According to the Journal Pediatrics, children in the most rural areas of the United States are as likely to die by gunfire as those in the biggest cities, a new analysis of nearly 24,000 deaths finds.

The researchers analyzed data on nearly 24,000 gun-related deaths among those 19 and younger from 1999 through 2006. That included about 15,000 homicides, about 7,000 suicides and about 1,400 accidental shootings for the eight-year period.

Full Story – HERE

One problem:

Last time I checked, a person is no longer considered a youth when they turn 18… so why are they including 18 and 19 year olds in the statistics?

Fix your stats Journal Pediatrics, then get back to us.

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Rancho Cucamonga, CA – Authorities said a woman was injured in an accidental shooting Sunday at a store that specializes in hunting and fishing gear in Rancho Cucamonga.

The incident happened at 3:45 p.m. at the Bass Pro Shop when a customer brought two of his own guns to the shop to use at the indoor firing range.

As he was checking in the weapons at the front door to verify that they were unloaded and to be trigger-locked, a bullet discharged within the carrying case and struck a customer standing in an aisle about 70 feet away, according to a spokeswoman for the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department.

Full Story – HERE

Another report with some different info – HERE

From the 2nd article:

The 52-year-old man, whose name wasn’t released, was checking in the weapons at the front desk when he noticed one of the guns had the hammer cocked. He reached for the .45-caliber weapon and it fired.

Ugh… retard.  Try unloading the gun before putting a trigger lock on it. The owner of the guns is lucky that woman didn’t get hit in a vital area and die.  My guess is he is going to be in a lot of trouble anyway, rightfully so.  We don’t need carelessness like that in the gun community.

It’s funny how both articles make it sound as if the gun just decided to “go off” on its own.

The two reports are a bit different:

  • The first article states that the woman was about 70 ft away when she got hit… and the 2nd article states she got hit from 40 yards away ( 120 ft )    (BIG Difference)
  • The first article states that the gun discharged within a carrying case… the 2nd article states the gun fired on its own through a bag.
  • The second article says the round penetrated the woman’s clothing but didn’t penetrate her skin, and then the round fell to the floor.

Who knows what’s right and what isn’t…

In hindsight ( hehe ) that lady can laugh at the fact her ass stopped a .45 caliber round. Only less in magnitude to the mighty 10mm as far as the gun community is concerned.  The  hardcore .45 supporters would have laughed their asses off if the bullet that struck the woman and failed to penetrate was a 9mm.

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Brigadier-General Daniel Ménard, who commands the Canadian and American troops who make up Task Force Kandahar, approached the media on Saturday, citing a need for openness, to say that his C8 carbine had fired unexpectedly at Kandahar air base on March 25th.

Full Story – HERE

I admire his coming forward and ordering an investigation on himself.  I’d assume that most, with such a high rank may have tried their hardest just to sweep it under the rug.  I guess the fact that he fired the rifle inside an American helicopter and almost hit a Canadian official probably made it a bit more of a big deal.

As you see in the title of the post I put “negligent” discharge, as opposed to it being a possible “accidental” discharge according to the article.  By my definition (and the definition of most) an accidental discharge is a mechanical failure of the weapon system, whereas a negligent discharge is a failure of the operator. Since the Brigadier-General was holding the rifle when it fired, I’d be willing to put my money on the fact that he had the safety off, and his booger hook on the bang switch.

I found the last paragraph in the article also interesting:

In the past 18 months, more than 600 Canadian Forces soldiers have been convicted of negligently discharging their weapons. Most of those incidents involve junior soldiers or recruits and many of them an instance of pulling the trigger prematurely during firing range practice.

Convicted?  So soldiers and recruits get convicted of a negligent discharge even if they are practicing on a the shooting range and the shot goes down range?  Although I don’t like the idea of a shot going ANYWHERE that is unintentional, I think it’s kind of harsh to tarnish the permanent record of a soldier that is still learning in cases where no one got hurt, and there was absolutely no chance of someone being hurt.  I wonder how a ND during training will affect their military career?  Seeing as retention is key in military organizations, this seems like a good way to lose soldiers.

600 ND’s in a year and a half seems like quite a lot, regardless of where they are occurring.

More info on the C8 carbine at Colt Canada – HERE

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