Negligent Discharges

The gun shop guys speak on the topic in another episode of Gun Gripes:

2:54 – Barry says he had 4 negligent discharges in his life (so far).   Shot through a bedroom wall, kitchen wall, closet door, living room ceiling.    Wow *facepalm* at least he’s honest and no one was hurt.

5:30 – Cop accidentally bumpfiring the 1911 on the door hook of a bathroom stall.  Pretty neat story if it’s true.

12:20 – Jar of saved rounds from guns that were supposedly unloaded that were pointed at them in 2011. That’s insane!!!!

Initially I thought 17 Minutes was about 14 minutes too long for me to watch, especially on a topic I never plan on having any personal experience with.  I’m glad I watched it though because it was interesting.

Thoughts? Any of you have any negligent discharge stories?

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Frank January 9, 2012 at 12:05 am

Man that old man is mentally dirty as hell.
He even groped his beard quickly because he couldn’t contain himself!
We know what that means!

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Kevin January 9, 2012 at 12:15 am

Personally I think the advice at (5:15) is a crock of shit “Don’t carry cocked and locked”. Id say instead figure out a better position or a better holster. To each their own…

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Siddhartha January 9, 2012 at 12:39 am

Are you sure these guys don’t work for the Brady’s???

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NikonMikon January 9, 2012 at 12:42 am

These fuckers are full fudd. I HATE the shit out of them. Worst kind of gun owners.

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Cameron January 10, 2012 at 08:32 am

No, they’re not. The worst kind of gun owners are the idiots. Those that mishandle, misuse, and disrespect firearms and ND all over the place, or accidentally kill someone, etc.

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cc19 January 10, 2012 at 06:32 pm

Like the videos (I think I saw off here), of the kids shooting targets dangling off each others’ junk.

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NotWagner January 11, 2012 at 06:37 pm

Indeed. Had a customer ND into the floor of the shop. Had several more point loaded weapons at me, employees or other customers…”Oh, the safety’s on.” “Oh, my finger isn’t on the trigger.”

It became, “Oh, you can leave now and don’t come back in here carrying…and if you don’t like that, don’t come back ever again.”

Their money is not worth a life to me. For every one person like that, there are 50 more who have some damned sense in their heads.

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Cameron January 11, 2012 at 11:10 pm

I’ve had people (jokingly) suggest that all gun store guys who have loaded guns pointed at them draw their own weapons for self defence…just for the sheer number of these damn stories of people aiming loaded guns at clerks.

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TheMirage January 9, 2012 at 02:03 am

I can verify the cop bump fire one. Masaad Ayoob told us about it in a class a few years ago.

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Jim January 9, 2012 at 07:22 am

All I can say is if it wasn’t for negligent discharges, I wouldn’t have been born. ;)

All joking aside, I don’t know anyone who’s done that with a firearm. Personally, I double and triple check my weapons before storing and again when handling.

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Calm Gun January 9, 2012 at 07:37 am

These guys are caricatures.

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Taylor January 9, 2012 at 08:17 am

a gentleman purchased a 1911 from the store i work at, and proceeded to load his gun in his car. the details he gave us as to what exactly happened were sketchy, but long story short he ended up with a hole in his windshield and hit our building.

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Farmer Bob January 9, 2012 at 08:57 am

Never had a negligent discharge personally, but I had a cousin who wasn’t thinking point a .22 at my face at the range. Fully loaded, chambered, safety off. We had a nice little talk after he set the gun down.

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Rich January 9, 2012 at 09:12 am

A guy I know was showing off for his girlfriend … in bed … with a loaded 1911.

He was trying to demonstrate that, if you push the barrel back, the gun will come out of battery and will not fire … by pressing the joint at the base of his forefinger into the muzzle … and pulling the trigger.

He didn’t push it back it far enough. His hand is a lot smaller than it used to be.

Oh yeah, he was proud of it. He used to go round showing everybody the hospital pictures of his hand with a hole where his finger joint used to be.

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Lance January 9, 2012 at 10:37 am

I’ve been shooting for damn near 15 years. I go to the range a hell of a lot and I’ve handled a loaded firearm every day for the past 4 years (I do not work in a gun store). I refuse to believe that negligent discharges will just happen. Maybe you should hold yourselves to a higher standard.

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Jwhite January 9, 2012 at 01:08 pm

Amen to that!.

I live in an apartment building surrounded by apartments. I cant afford one. :/ I dont store chambered any more.

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Lance January 10, 2012 at 03:05 pm

I hear ya. I used to live in an apartment, but now I’m in a house. I still store and carry my G19 with one in the chamber.

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Weer'd Beard January 9, 2012 at 10:47 am

I remember reading about the cop that hung his gun on the coat hook in the toilet stall.

I had two NDs one before I was a gun owner and another my first year of owning guns.

Both were me dropping the hammer at the range on a “clear” gun. Just a big suprise, no harm, no foul, no damaged property.

Been years, and hopefully will be never will I get suprised by a gun that goes “bang” when I was expecting a “Click”, and hopefully I’ll never hear a click when expecting a bang when I’m playing for keeps.

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Christopher Harper January 9, 2012 at 12:19 pm

Again, lowering a hammer on a 1911 is the worst thing you can do, for that exact reason. Not to mention fine motor skills under pressure = bad business. It is not meant to be carried that way. +1 on not mexican carrying period. Wear a holster that covers the trigger guard. It isn’t that expensive. Also, if it goes bang after bumping something, your gun has likely been modified by someone who wasn’t super clear about what they were doing.

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Dragon76 January 9, 2012 at 04:25 pm

Ive never had an any sort of discharge that wasnt intended, but my dad shot thruough the roof of his house playing with His S&W 9mm.

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Critter January 9, 2012 at 04:30 pm

i’ve been shooting for 40 years and carrying for about 30. i had one ND when i was 15: a single shot .22 rifle that i KNEW was unloaded, but i just had to play with the trigger. one hole in the ceiling and a near coronary later i learned better. i have yet to repeat the experience.

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steve January 9, 2012 at 05:41 pm
Charlesincharge January 9, 2012 at 06:16 pm

One ND, guilty, at home into the wall, under the influence. I was dry practicing with a revolver with ammo on the table. I’ve been sober 11 years now so that is no longer an issue. It was dumb on a couple levels. Luckily I was not aiming at the TV but at a spot on the wall.

One AD, with a wrongly reassembled 1911 with a finger of the sear spring stuck inside the magwell. I racked the slide, and when it went into battery it caused the trigger to follow, and the gun to go full auto. That is actually sort of a ND, because the gun was not properly function checked upon reassembly after detail stripping. I learned from that one too. All guns get extensively functioned checked after detail stripping.

If you shoot enough, you will experience one or the other. So long as you are observing one or more of the 4 rules, everyone should be OK.

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Michael Bakowski January 9, 2012 at 09:02 pm

I went to a state rifle association gun show once. Right outside the door was a 1 gallon clear bucket FILLED TO THE BRIM with bullets from “Unloaded” guns, And that was from 1 weekend show!

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Siddhartha January 12, 2012 at 12:25 am

I have been following the comments on this post out of curiosity as to which firearms have owners that were more prone to ND’s and it looks like in this unscientific observation that the 1911 wins hands down. Then you have NYPD who had quite a few issues back in the ’90’s with ND’s with the Glock platform.
Years ago I was visiting my inlaws at the time and my father-inlaw showed me his 1911 and explained to me how safe it was and how it wouldn’t fire without the grip safety engaged and the next thing you know, another TV bit the dust. The 1911 is a safe platform, but it seems to me that the best safety is between your ears.

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