Rachel Maddow Talks Shooting

Right after he did a photo shoot:

He really seemed to have a good time, which is good to see.  Can’t say i’m a big fan of his show though because of the DERP on it in the past.

NO HEAD SHOTS REGULATION TARGETS ONLY <--- wtf? So you can't head shot regulation silhouettes? Is that an attempt to save the target hangers? Thoughts?



skunkworks July 10, 2012 at 01:18 am
BrowningBottoms July 10, 2012 at 01:57 am

Ratings must be really hurting at MSNBC.

stickfigure July 10, 2012 at 02:23 am

I used to love Star Trek: The Next Generation…

jodark July 10, 2012 at 04:59 am

I wouldn’t let Madcow anywhere near my gun range. A civilian disarmer like him would be banned for life.

J- July 10, 2012 at 05:05 am

My father once said “never trust the politician who gets their picture taken in an orange vest with a fany shotgun.” At first I didn’t understand why, they are carrying a gun, they must be pro-gun. But no, they are not. They are masquerading as pro-gun in the most unthreatening way possible, usually while mouthing crap about “not taking away grandpa’s deer rifle” and such.

I don’t care how many photoshoot you have at Westside. Anti-high capacity magazine, anti-ccw, pro-registration, pro-permit to own; these are all anti-gun positions. Saying she’s a gun owner then holding anti gun positions allows her to say: “I’m not anti gun, I own guns, I just think right wing gun owners are crazy becuse…(insert left wing BS).” She’s not hip, she’s not cool, and I’m not going to tink of her as pro gun until she supports the right of every law abiding citizen of NY and NYC to get a permit to carry concealed, and not just her politically connected “but I need to to protect myself from the right wing extremists” celeb friends.

hydepark July 10, 2012 at 10:59 am

I agree bro, but I wish the gun community would get out of the habit of saying,”High Capacity” magazines. The AK-47 was DESIGNED to use 30 rd STANDARD CAPACITY mags. Not knocking what you’re saying, but the libs always seem to control the lingo.

Ed July 10, 2012 at 08:00 pm

Indeed this is true.

I have many standard capacity 30 round magazines and this saying has always irked me too.

Dilhack July 11, 2012 at 01:26 am

I never thought about it that way – but am totally jumping on that train.

thebronze July 10, 2012 at 05:51 am

That dude should stay away from guns. He looks dangerous.

Aaron July 10, 2012 at 06:39 am

I look at this pragmatically – within the span of a few weeks, your average leftie latte-sipping NPR news junkie has 1. learned that there’s a range in their backyard (metaphorically speaking). 2. And probably heard/saw the Kurt Anderson/Joel Stein piece about their experiences at the range, and now Rachel Maddow. It just might help start getting the message across that guns really are OK to these people, however incrementally it happens…

Chrontius July 11, 2012 at 08:13 pm

I listen to NPR more or less religiously since ClearChannel took over everything else remotely worth listening to around these parts.

In the last, oh, year or so they’ve been *astoundingly* pro-gun. They haven’t reported on the tragedy of the local Thursday-night bowling pin matches being cancelled, but… baby steps, you know?

retro_joe July 10, 2012 at 07:23 am

I have to say, the “he” references are very petty for you, Mike. I know quite a few lesbian shooters who are adamant gun rights supporters (not to mentioned, skilled and knowledgeable shooters) because they recognize their need to defend themselves. Why reduce it to name calling?

Jeep July 10, 2012 at 09:37 am

I don’t think it has anything to do with lesbian in general, nor lesbian shooters in particular. It’s just that she looks like a dude.
And she’s a jerk. So it’s fun to make fun of her.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought women don’t become lesbian because they look like men.

ENDO-Mike July 10, 2012 at 09:40 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought women don’t become lesbian because they look like men.

haha Exactly.

retro_joe July 10, 2012 at 11:31 am

So it’s playground politics then?

I’d rather not perpetuate the myth of the uneducated white redneck gun owner and prefer to address differences directly rather than name calling.

paul kimble July 10, 2012 at 06:03 pm

what myth?

hydepark July 10, 2012 at 11:02 am

I agree, retro_joe. There’s no call to make fun of something has no control over (their sexuality) these days.

She’s a liberal fool, yes, but otherwise making fun of or berating her for something akin to being black or born left-handed is nonsense.

TheRealDave July 11, 2012 at 02:15 pm

Comparing a lifestyle to race is nonsense.

hydepark July 12, 2012 at 01:57 pm

And you’re an idiot for believing it’s a lifestyle choice.

NikonMikon July 13, 2012 at 05:43 am

And you’re an idiot for not recognizing that she looks like a dude and that’s why mike is calling her ‘he’.

hydepark July 13, 2012 at 11:14 am

You’re an idiot for believing that was Mike’s original intent. He does this shit all the time where he posts something and NEVER backs down off a subject and just ridicules responders for their opinion. If you believe Mike calling her a he had nothing to do with her known sexuality, then that’s a shame.

hurf durf July 11, 2012 at 09:19 pm

Okay, calling her “he” was a low blow. He should have called her a “propagandist disgusting cunt.” Would that have been better? I think so.

Weer'd Beard July 10, 2012 at 08:18 am

The no Headshots is likely to save the hangers and keep people from ringing the baffles. I know there’s an MG range in Nevada that has all sorts of photo targets (like Osama Bin Laden) and they hang them upside down because people want to shoot the head, and the range wants to keep the shots low and into the berm.

“Regulation Targets” is a lefty thing that we have up here in Mass. You see lefties don’t like people shooting at targets that look too much like people. I suspect those “Hostage Taker” and “Bruno the Mugger” targets are banned there because they’re maybe a bit too violent and scary to “Progressives”.

Sadly my club has similar rules.

Mike July 10, 2012 at 09:01 am

So… went to a shooting range for a photo shoot, but apparently didn’t actually do any shooting?

What’s the actual purpose behind the photos?

Tyler H July 10, 2012 at 09:51 am


RWC July 10, 2012 at 10:44 am

Ha. Was just about to post the video of her talking about the plastic guns and cop killer bullets.

Heyyyyyyy, that looks familiar :-)


BrowningBottoms July 10, 2012 at 11:13 am

Don’t forget “the shoulder thing that goes up.” LOL

paul kimble July 10, 2012 at 11:17 am

wtf noah wyle should go back to ER and shut his fat mouth.

Ranger G (of the forest type) July 10, 2012 at 09:33 pm

So why am I looking at Rachel Maddow on a gun site? She is a radical leftist who will push the gun control lobby as far and hard as she can. Everybody gets a free foulup, and I’m counting this as Endo’s. But from now on, if I want a leftist anti-gunner on video, let me go to MSNBC.

ENDO-Mike July 10, 2012 at 09:51 pm

hahah she had a gun, I made fun of her and posted it. End of story.

John July 10, 2012 at 10:33 pm

My local range has a “no head shots” rule on regulation silhouettes too, and it’s for hangers. Non-reg targets like the one seen in the vid are no problem since the “head” isn’t placed so close to the top margin.

But, leave it to an emotionally compromised liberal to take that rule to mean something sensitive.

chris July 10, 2012 at 11:45 pm

I’m a big fan of the blog, but the ‘he’ references are really petty.
I ask you, if Maddow (being a lesbian woman) was pro-2A the rest of the time, would you still be calling her ‘he’? I’d say probably not.
2A-related issues have been a matter of strong opinion for a very long time. We aren’t going to win that debate (or any points in public opinion) by disrespecting those who disagree with us. Stupid things like calling Maddow ‘he’ just make gun owners look like dumb petty rednecks who’ve never seen a lesbian before.
And we all know that’s not the case, check your badly hidden porn folder if you need proof… :)

ENDO-Mike July 10, 2012 at 11:49 pm

Yea I’m petty I get it. I’m sure Rachel Maddow is dabbing the tears from his eyes (OH SHIT I DID IT AGAIN) with hundred dollar bills right now. Lesbian or not, I really don’t care…

Frank July 11, 2012 at 12:59 am

@ENDO-Mike, +100 million.

@chris, would you prefer that Mike uses “It”? As “We all float down here!” might as well be the mantra of any political zealot.

Fake Chris July 12, 2012 at 01:14 am

(I’m the chris from above)
No, I’d rather he uses “she”. If he’s going to point out her hypocrisy in first appearing in a gun range video, then trashing 2A and CCW on national TV, that’s a good thing. But to then insult her appearance takes away from the former very valid point and drags the whole discussion down to a 2nd grade level.

ocelot July 11, 2012 at 01:01 am


thebronze July 11, 2012 at 02:00 am

“I ask you, if Maddow (being a lesbian woman) was pro-2A the rest of the time, would you still be calling her ‘he’?”

But he isn’t pro-2A the rest of the time, is he? That’s pretty much the point, isn’t it. And the fact that she looka lika man.

hurf durf July 11, 2012 at 09:21 pm

Normally, those who try to rape your rights are called “pieces of shit”. In this case, “piece of shit” was substituted with “he”. Not a bad substitution, says that piece of shit I left in that burning bag on your front porch last night.

denver chris July 11, 2012 at 03:20 am

God damnit. There’s an imposter chris defaming my name. I’m now known as Denver chris.

For all those getting offended by Mike calling Rachel “HE” I ask you one thing – is it coincidence she is androgynous? Highly doubtful. It’s a very calculated thing. If you get offended that easily, I’m gonna ressurect your aborted fetus and kill it again. ($5 to the first who tells me who I quoted without Google – GO!) How many people will get offended by that? Pro-lifers, baby lovers, anyone who doesn’t believe in ressurection….ect.
Y’all really need to get your shit together people, and not get offended by insignificant shit that’s obviously in jest. Band together and fight for your right to party. And own guns. And speak freely. Don’t forget the net is our last bastion of freedom, but at this rate with all these tittyboys getting offended so easily, for how much longer?

hydepark July 11, 2012 at 11:18 am

Okay sounds good. So, we’re all in agreement here that it’s now okay for us to make fun of (in jest as you say) any minority we wish???

So if that’s what Mike wants and if that’s what some of you want we can just go around here calling homosexuals faggots, black people niggers, Italian people wops, women we can obviously refer to as cunts from now on.Oh, I’m sorry did I offend anyone?

Yeah, there’s a reason that what I just typed is unacceptable behavior in any setting. It’s hate speech and it’s offensive. Homosexuals are no exception.

BBJones July 11, 2012 at 01:12 pm

Your slippery slope argument is ridiculous. Mike said what he did because of what she looks like and what she has to say about 2A (just paraphrasing Mike’s responses). You and others who are offended are linking it to her sexuality. Mike made no negative comments about her sexuality (or minorities), just her appearance. She is a public figure who makes money by pushing an ideology and saying some “controversial” things. If she didn’t want comments or jokes about her opinions or her appearance, she should have chosen a less public life.

So here is my slippery slope argument to counter your slippery slope argument. We should all stop saying anything that might offend anyone. Pro-2A statements scare and offend some people (looking at you Leland Yee). How far do we want to take this? Lets just embrace the right that we are blessed to have in this country to say pretty much whatever we want.

denver chris July 11, 2012 at 01:57 pm

Yea. Thanks for taking the words out of my mouth. Do you get that worked up every time “Dude Looks Like a Lady” by aerosmith comes on the radio? Jesus Christ.

denver chris July 11, 2012 at 02:06 pm

Also, regarding the n-word – Chris Rock does a great bit on that.

Honestly, you can walk around doing and saying whatever the hell you want, hydepark, and as long as it doesn’t infringe on other people’s rights, I could give a shit. So if you want to drop the n-bomb – sweet! No sweat off my back. While I disagree with your usage of it, it’s your right. Making fun of someones appearence, when it’s something they can control (e.g., the way someone dresses) is one thing – making fun of someone’s appearence when they can’t control it (e.g., albinism, skin color, or in my case, being a Ginger) different story. For the record, you can call me a soulless Ginger fuck and I will laugh. Have a good day.

hydepark July 12, 2012 at 02:01 pm

Okay, so I think I get it now. We’re just going to bash gays here. That’s fine. That’s directly related to firearms. Roger that.

ENDO-Mike July 12, 2012 at 04:30 pm

Again… she’s not being bashed because she’s gay.

hydepark July 12, 2012 at 01:56 am

I guess some people can’t bother to read anything other than their own posts here. Read the whole page first, faggot/nigger/wop/Jew/cunt/etc (just remaining within the new spirit of things here).

denver chris July 12, 2012 at 03:32 am

Having….tremendous….trouble not feeding the troll…

ENDO-Mike July 11, 2012 at 01:17 pm

I don’t think you get it… I don’t give a shit that she’s a lesbian. Not all girls that look like guys are lesbians.

Fake Chris July 11, 2012 at 01:24 pm

True. But calling Maddow a ‘he’ is very easy to interpret as a comment about her sexual orientation.

I just think we (2A supporters as a whole) can do better than insulting someones appearance.

ENDO-Mike July 11, 2012 at 01:26 pm

I think we 2A supporters have better things to do than walk around on eggshells.

Fake Chris July 11, 2012 at 02:09 pm

It’s not that I am worried about offending Rachel Maddow, she can handle herself. I’m also not saying we should walk on eggshells, especially not on an open forum like this. That’s the beauty of the First Amendment and the Internet.

Insult her opinions, her political positions, even her intelligence. Nobody will complain about that and it’s expected for a blog like this. But attacking her appearance and/or sexual orientation, that just comes off as petty. How she does her hair or if she prefers clams over sausage has nothing to do with the issue at hand. It’s no different than calling Leland Yee (anti-2A CA state senator) a ‘dumb slant-eyed chink’. It has nothing to do with the issue, and it just degrades the discussion as a whole from honest discourse to mud throwing. And it gives anti-gun types fuel for their argument that gun owners are all dumb racist hicks.

More importantly I feel calling Maddow ‘he’ takes away from your very good point that while apparently shooting at the range, she’s also doing strongly anti-gun slanted segments on TV. Pointing out hypocrisy among antis is an important part of the pro-2A fight, and I think the ‘he’ comments weakened the overall post by dragging it down to 3rd grade level insults.

It’s of course your site and the beauty of our country is you are welcome to post on it as you like, you have no obligation to listen to me :) But I think it’d have been a stronger post without the ‘he’ comments. Just my 2c :)

Nate July 19, 2012 at 03:48 pm

At least we’ve moved up to third grade, from 2nd grade earlier in the posts.

Everyone needs to take their politically correct BS and pound sand. If someone calls me a fat Irish mick, most times I smile and carry on, like that ginger prick Denver Chris. Who gives a fuck, they’re words, if you can’t handle it, sorry for you. Go take your participation trophies home and stay off the net where the mean people are.

Go look up the meaning of “tolerant”. It doesn’t mean having to love, like, agree with, etc. and it isn’t hate speech until it has an actual threat behind it. Saying I don’t like micks is a lot different than saying every fucking mick should be drug into the street and shot.

We’re turning more into a bunch of flower smoking hippies every day.

Nate July 19, 2012 at 03:53 pm

Sorry, “dragged into the street”. Almost sounded ignorant there.

Nate July 19, 2012 at 03:32 pm

I’m a mick, I’m offended you didn’t include me. You got something against the Irish?

Fake Chris July 11, 2012 at 01:19 pm

Ah sorry about that, didn’t realize there was already an established chris here :)

I think hydepark took the words right out of my mouth.

Anti-gun types love to paint gun owners and 2A supporters as crazy, uneducated, redneck, psycho types that have no respect for anyone but themselves and will just as happily shoot you as shake your hand. Petty quips on totally irrelevant issues like Ms. Maddow’s appearance or sexual orientation may be funny but they do nothing to further the debate or help our cause. Instead they just provide ‘evidence’ that the antis are right and we are dumb redneck morons.

Gun owners may not have much in common with Rachel Maddow, but we’re still both Americans and we can still treat each other with some respect, even when we disagree strongly about other issues.

huey July 11, 2012 at 07:53 am

we got a ranges in my neck of the woods that have the “no headshot” policy for some reason…

Chrontius July 11, 2012 at 08:18 pm

My local range just fixes the target holder with a new document clip if you blast it while trying for a headshot. If you do it more than once, *then* they say “no headshots”.

TheRealDave July 11, 2012 at 02:32 pm

The homosexual lifestyle is wrong, gross, and nasty. The moral decay it brings with it is more of a threat to this country than loss of gun rights. Hahahaha when did Endo start getting readers from the DU?

Chrontius July 11, 2012 at 08:26 pm

I know I risk starting a flamewar on a lesser forum, but I believe ENDO is a fairly thoughtful place.

The Pink Pistols are some of the most no-bullshit pro-gun folks out there. Calling them the “Pink Panthers” wouldn’t have been too terribly far off the mark – they’re all about the right to home and self defense, and the hunters are only important as they contribute to that goal. Fortunately, organized, institutionalized and violent bashing went out of style in the 60s, or the nickname might actually be accurate. Making them stop supporting us is horribly shortsighted.

Also, I’ve read enough sociology to come to the conclusion that the best way to marginalize and end the “gay lifestyle” is to stop sabotaging their attempts at having a happy, long-term, monogamous relationship.

hydepark July 12, 2012 at 01:58 am

Dave is officially the ignorant fucking fool of the day.

ocelot July 11, 2012 at 03:00 pm

Even if she is not a lesbian she still looks like a dude. Im not from the US im from canada i dont know who this maddow is and i dont know her sexual orientation. First time i saw her pic i thought she was a dude and didnt even get the joke the first time. But now that i get it its funny as hell.

paul kimble July 11, 2012 at 07:17 pm

jesus you guys are a bunch of fags

hurf durf July 11, 2012 at 09:22 pm

Who’s the fag in the vidya?

Jeep July 12, 2012 at 02:52 am

Too bad so many people are compelled to read these articles they don’t like and browse the web surfing on blogs they disagree with… This world is so tough…
Grow a pair (like Rach.. oops, shut up you communist tree-loving bisexual), go get your humor back and if you don’t like what you read, just leave.

Do you think I got enough stereotypes-related insults (maybe start something on jewish people) to piss EVERYBODY?

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