Medium capacity assault anyone?

I like the look of the magazine, and it seems to work well… but I gotta ask why?  To get 20 measly more rounds than 1 single standard AR-15 magazine, and 10 rounds less than carrying two and the width of around 5 magazines?  Seems to me that carrying two mags would take up less room, and be compatible with every pouch on the planet… not to mention you also have the assurance that if one fails you still have 30 rounds (hopefully) in magazine #2.  I guess what I’m trying to get at is if you want sustained automatic fire you might as well go with a 100 rounder for maximum fun.  Those though are even more bulky and awkward…


Made by XS Products who also make a load of other drum magazines.  Their name is confusingly similar to XS Sights, but as far as I can tell the two companies are not related.

Thoughts?  Are you on board with drum magazines, or do <3 the box configuration and capacity of the Surefire high capacity 60 and 100 round box style magazines more?  Interesting how Sturmgewehre said he hasn’t had any luck with the Surefire 60s.


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Sturmgewehre takes a look at a new 50 round drum magazine from SGM Tactical:

It would be quite satisfying to load an entire box of ammunition into one magazine.  As I was typing that I was also thinking how much burning through a few mags of that would cost though :/

SMG Tactical doesn’t have the magazine up on their website yet (FAIL #1!) and their website looks like shit (FAIL #2!).  Midway USA is taking pre-orders of the mag though, with the price set at $69!  After seeing the above vid, I’d say you would definitely get your money’s worth if you have a 9mm Glock.

Not having last shot hold open is kind of a let down.  I’m pretty sure they could find a way to incorporate that into the design, considering the way that is engaged on the Glock isn’t very complicated.  Normally I would have complained that the actual mag part that goes into the gun isn’t an actual Glock magazine… my concerns were relieved though when I saw it seemed to function perfectly, The Beta C-MAG used an actual Glock magazine, but it no longer seems to be available for sale (and from what I remember was significantly more money).  Non-steel reinforced magazine lips may be a bit of a concern for those that operate hard, but my guess is they chose a polymer that can take a lot of abuse.  That ratcheting action used to load the magazine is genius.



Chaos311Clarity laughs at your minuscule ammo stockpile.  He gets it by the drum:

Source – @chaos311clarity

XM855BAR is 5.56x45mm 62 gr.  Yea that would be quite a bit of fun with an AR-15.

Make sure you also check out Chaos’ dope YouTube channel by the same name.


Well that’s embarrassing…



Looks like some serious firepower!

Alliance Armament‘s website is actually down now, but I was able to peek at in in google cache and it looks like the Accelerator is a conversion for the Saiga 12, and was selling for $2642.97 and the drum magazine was selling for $379.  No telling if that is the current price as well, but hopefully the price will be lower when their site is fixed and goes live.


New from Black Dog Machine:


AR15.22 Drum fits Atchisson/Ciener style drop in conversion kits and dedicated uppers.  Also fits Kel-Tec, Sig 552, Tactical Solutions uppers, Model 1 Sales, and Spikes kits and uppers.

I can’t wait to give one of those a try on my .22 LR AR-15 conversion!  I have one of the 26 round single stack magazines from Black Dog, and it works great.  Hopefully the reliability is just as good on this drum mag.

They also released a 50 round drum mag to fit the Puma PPS line of rifles (The rifles are Italian made and imported by Legacy Sports)




This is actually the first time I’ve seen or heard of the Puma PPS.. it looks really cool!  I wonder how its reliability compares to a Ruger 10/22?

Both of the mags are available on the Black Dog Machine website for $80 – HERE